@divegeester saidYou do seem to have an instinct for detection and pattern recognition. I hope you have opportunities to put those to good use outside this silly forum.
Must be a load of retuning user bollox more like.
01 Dec 19
@fmf saidIf God does not come down and "force" us then who is man to do so?
What are your thoughts on this question:
Isn't the eventual installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions ~ as the world's one and only faith ~ the ideal and desired outcome for proactive devotees of pretty much any and all "revealed" religions?
@whodey saidIf only the context of your post history could give that question any weight.
If God does not come down and "force" us then who is man to do so?
@medullah removed their quoted postIf I may, I'm going to stop you right here and point out to you your own indoctrination into what conservatives (such as the Republican Party) want you to believe and what they want you to be afraid of. Their solution to easing your fear is much worse than the fear itself. But as you say, you become indoctrinated to believe that what you've already been convinced of is whom your enemies are and whom you should follow, and invariably, it just so happens to be them. Their gods become your gods and their enemies become your enemies. Such is actual indoctrination, not merely what you claim your new enemies have been motivated by. Again, as you say, "indoctrination of society to accept what wasn't normal as now normal; so control of the media and how you think is paramount." (Think Fox News, and OANN, and all the way back to Rush Limbaugh's radio show, and yes, Alex Jones.) And your failure is now complete.
@fmf saidThrough the economy.
Here is the question:
How will the Indonesian government - or an "incoming" Indonesian government - force me and other members of the nation's population to believe in "a re-hashed version of Baal worship". Do you have any ideas about how they will go about it?
When you get hungry enough you'll bend the knee.
@whodey saidThey first get you with the economy and politics, then, the third leg of the stool, religion.
Politics mixed with religion is not about you worshipping a particular god, it's about control.
Those that succumb to The Lie will do just what they're told. Mass control.
@fmf saidInteresting how you placed quotation marks around the word revealed.
What are your thoughts on this question:
Isn't the eventual installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions ~ as the world's one and only faith ~ the ideal and desired outcome for proactive devotees of pretty much any and all "revealed" religions?
@secondson saidWhy is it interesting to you?
Interesting how you placed quotation marks around the word revealed.
@suzianne saidDo you accept that God sets up governments and world leaders including Trump?
If I may, I'm going to stop you right here and point out to you your own indoctrination into what conservatives (such as the Republican Party) want you to believe and what they want you to be afraid of. Their solution to easing your fear is much worse than the fear itself. But as you say, you become indoctrinated to believe that what you've already been convinced of is who ...[text shortened]... the way back to Rush Limbaugh's radio show, and yes, Alex Jones.) And your failure is now complete.
@secondson saidOf course I do, because I don't believe the religions in question are "revealed". The word "revealed" is a believer's word and I am not a believer. I also put quotation marks around the words "sin", "saved" and "Satan".
Interesting how you placed quotation marks around the word revealed.
01 Dec 19
@divegeester saidBecause he apparently did not understand why I do it.
Why is it interesting to you?
@secondson saidBend the knee to what?
Through the economy.
When you get hungry enough you'll bend the knee.
Islam and Christianity here are probably at their most devout and palliative amongst the poorest people.
@fmf said"Isn't the eventual installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions ~ as the world's one and only faith ~ the ideal and desired outcome for proactive devotees of pretty much any and all "revealed" religions?"
"Except" Christianity?
That's your answer to the OP?
So the eventual installation of your "revealed" religion - its narratives and traditions - as the world's one and only faith is NOT the ideal and desired outcome in your view? Read the OP again. "All except Christianity"?
You don't understand your own OP.
From your perspective it may very well appear, that, "the ideal" "outcome for proactive devotees" is the "installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions", uniting the world under one theocratic ruler ship, is the reality of the religious world scene, but you are far from the truth.
The "devotees" of Christianity are not seeking to install their "God figure" on the throne of this "world's one and only faith". That is what all the rest are attempting to do.
Our God, the only true God, the God of Christianity, will do that Himself. The only mission for Christians in this life is to lead people to Christ, but only God can bring Christ to man. It is not the Christian's purpose to establish a one world religion or politic.
Absolute exclusivity.