One World Religion

@fmf said
Bend the knee to what?

Islam and Christianity here are probably at their most devout and palliative amongst the poorest people.

Not to "what".
Bend the knee to the one that feeds your belly, but starves your soul. Are you having difficulty following the inferences?

"Palliative"? Christ is the cure, the only remedy. Your disbelief notwithstanding.

@secondson said
"Isn't the eventual installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions ~ as the world's one and only faith ~ the ideal and desired outcome for proactive devotees of pretty much any and all "revealed" religions?"

You don't understand your own OP.

From your perspective it may very well appear, that, "the ideal" "outcome for proactive devotees" is the " ...[text shortened]... s not the Christian's purpose to establish a one world religion or politic.

Absolute exclusivity.

You either believe that your God figure is the real deity for all human beings and therefore Christianity is the only true religion in the world, or you don't.

@secondson said
Absolute exclusivity.

Your belief in "absolute exclusivity" is what the OP is about.

@secondson said
"Palliative"? Christ is the cure, the only remedy. Your disbelief notwithstanding.

All religions have a palliative role in the lives of their devotees.

@secondson said
Not to "what".
Bend the knee to the one that feeds your belly, but starves your soul.

"Bend their knee" to what religion? Please bear in mind the topic of this thread.

@fmf said
Of course I do, because I don't believe the religions in question are "revealed". The word "revealed" is a believer's word and I am not a believer. I also put quotation marks around the words "sin", "saved" and "Satan".

So what you're saying is you use quotation marks to signify what you don't believe in, and then ask endless questions relative to those things of those that do.

Seems self defeating, deceptive and convoluted to me. Even devious, and diabolical.

And you've been on that track for over a decade here? With no results, and nothing to show for it except a deeper entrenchment in unbelief?

Pity.

@secondson said
So what you're saying is you use quotation marks to signify what you don't believe in, and then ask endless questions relative to those things of those that do.

Yes. The supposedly "endless" questions and observations and stances are the substance of my contribution to the debates and discussions here.

@secondson said
Seems self defeating, deceptive and convoluted to me. Even devious, and diabolical.

You mean the content of my posts?

@secondson said
And you've been on that track for over a decade here? With no results, and nothing to show for it except a deeper entrenchment in unbelief?

"No results"? I have been involved in hundreds and hundreds of interesting debates and discussions. It's what this forum is for.

@fmf said
You either believe that your God figure is the real deity for all human beings and therefore Christianity is the only true religion in the world, or you don't.

So what if I do?

How is your reply above to the content of my reply to your OP relative to what I posted in reply to your OP?

It's not. You are simply deflecting away from the points I made that contradict what you are insinuating in your OP because you either fail to comprehend what I said, or you're deliberately avoiding the confrontation.

You asked the question in your OP, "Isn't the eventual installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions ~ as the world's one and only faith ~ the ideal and desired outcome for proactive devotees of pretty much any and all "revealed" religions?"

I answered, but you failed to respond to my answer, except to deflect away from and ignore the points I made with trite, innocuous and off topic replies that serve only to generate obfuscation and confusion about what's being discussed.

So I will reiterate what I said originally and give you a chance to demonstrate some intellectual integrity by addressing the points I made.

"From your perspective it may very well appear, that, "the ideal" "outcome for proactive devotees" is the "installation of their God figures, narratives and traditions", uniting the world under one theocratic ruler ship, is the reality of the religious world scene, but you are far from the truth.

The "devotees" of Christianity are not seeking to install their "God figure" on the throne of(as) this "world's one and only faith". That is what all the rest are attempting to do.

Our God, the only true God, the God of Christianity, will do that Himself. The only mission for Christians in this life is to lead people to Christ, but only God can bring Christ to man. It is not the Christian's purpose to establish a one world religion or politic.

Absolute exclusivity."

Try to process what I'm saying.

@fmf said
"No results"? I have been involved in hundreds and hundreds of interesting debates and discussions. It's what this forum is for.

Do you think you're nearer the truth after all these years involved in hundreds and hundreds of debates?

Or further away?

You've assumed a posture you label "agnostic atheist", which in reality means you still don't know. Not knowing is akin to confusion and instability in the mind. Not knowing the truth subjugates the mind to fiction. There's no third option.

@fmf said
Yes. The supposedly "endless" questions and observations and stances are the substance of my contribution to the debates and discussions here.

And apparently no substantive answers to your endless questions.

Do you ever think that maybe you're asking the wrong questions? Possibly with a subconscious agenda to undermine the coherent, rational and logical exchange of ideas and concepts relative to the topics of discussion, with the purpose of derailing the possibility of arriving at The Truth.

I think that because you debate from the position of unbelief and a mindset "agnostic/atheist", (not knowing), you are, without knowing it, automatically predisposed to a narrow minded and combative stance in opposition to any idea or concept that threatens to dislodge you from your fortress of self pride, and the security of your presupposed intellectual prowess.

Unfortunately there just doesn't appear to be any kinder way of saying that. Fortunately this is an anonymous forum, so you don't need to feel personally slighted by anything I say.

@secondson said
So what if I do?

It makes you one of the " devotees" mentioned in the OP.

@secondson said
I think that because you debate from the position of unbelief and a mindset "agnostic/atheist", (not knowing), you are, without knowing it, automatically predisposed to a narrow minded and combative stance in opposition to any idea or concept that threatens to dislodge you from your fortress of self pride, and the security of your presupposed intellectual prowess.

I don't agree.

@secondson said
Unfortunately there just doesn't appear to be any kinder way of saying that. Fortunately this is an anonymous forum, so you don't need to feel personally slighted by anything I say.

Which bit are you worried might be seen as a 'personal slight'?