08 Dec 19
@wolfe63 saidHey wolfe, I don't know about you, but I don't subscribe to any man's voice, especially that of those that seek to impose a form of government on me without my consent.
"flowery language designed to fool the masses into marching to the beat of the drum"
- secondson
If that doesn't describe the preachy motive of most "evangelical" religions, I don't know what does.
Do you understand that? Not without my consent.
Trust me. You have no clue about what the "motive" of the church is.
08 Dec 19
Q. When will this supposed one world government actually come into existence?
A. Don’t know but it will, oh yes.
Q. When will this supposed one world religion actually come into existence?
A. Don’t know, but it will , oh yes.
Q. How do you know?
A. Because writings on stones in a field and because of Daniel and how it explains Revelation. And other stuff on the internet which I can’t find at the moment...
08 Dec 19
@secondson saidI don't think "micro vision" - whatever that means - explains our different perspectives. I think it's more likely to be caused by our backgrounds, education, experience, travels etc.
Do you suffer from micro vision?
08 Dec 19
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@divegeester said1) I don't know correct, but messrs Bush, Bush, Clinton, Brown; Cameron; Obama and Kissinger have all referenced it so clearly they think that it's on the table.
Q. When will this supposed one world government actually come into existence?
A. Don’t know but it will, oh yes.
Q. When will this supposed one world religion actually come into existence?
A. Don’t know, but it will , oh yes.
Q. How do you know?
A. Because writings on stones in a field and because of Daniel and how it explains Revelation. And other stuff on the internet which I can’t find at the moment...
2) We don't know, this is true, but two blocks appear to be vying to sit at its head at the moment, who knows there may be a third.
3) How do we know, because presidents and prime ministers have referenced it. Labour, Conservative, Republican, and Democrat.
The world wouldn't agree to this stuff, which is why they haven't had a vote.
08 Dec 19
@secondson saidThis is all so thoroughly riddled with superstition and misanthropy and impotence that I'd barely know where to begin. As far as all this stuff you've typed here is concerned, let's just agree to disagree.
History proves that man cannot govern himself. All forms of human efforts to establish government have always degenerated into nothing. What exists today in the form of the U.N. is being built on the ash heap of failed efforts by man from the past. Power in the hands of man leads to eventual tyranny and demoralization of the human spirit.
The world of man is headed in a ...[text shortened]... aith in the true and living God. If you could hear His voice in the scriptures you'd know I'm right.
08 Dec 19
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@medullah saidSo you admit that basically you haven’t got the first clue and your key evidence is based on some unreferenced, unproven sayings by an idiot President and his father, another President who is a proven adulterer and liar and 2 ex UK Prime Ministers one of whom is a politically disgraced pigs head-fuker and the other a one-eyed dour Scott.
1) I don't know correct, but messrs Bush, Bush, Clinton, Brown; Cameron; Obama and Kissinger have all referenced it so clearly they think that it's on the table.
2) We don't know, this is true, but two blocks appear to be vying to sit at its head at the moment, who knows there may be a third.
3) How do we know, because presidents and prime ministers have referenced ...[text shortened]... ican, and Democrat.
The world wouldn't agree to this stuff, which is why they haven't had a vote.
Right?
08 Dec 19
@fmf saidThe worlds resources are currently being gobbled up - in particular by the US/UK alliance. Despite claims that they are doing well, both countries are too far overdrawn (the UK has had its credit rating down graded a couple of times over the last few years. You can run a company that is loosing money for some time providing the cash flow is good. The resources currently being stolen from the Arab peoples in particular provides that cash flow.
What would the purpose of "the tyranny of the governmental system" be if they plan to not use the world's resources and if there were only 500 million people to rule?
As you know full well it is YOU that are stipulating 500 million. As I have already said, I think that lot of this is a wind-up and that this isn't a genuine debate from your prospective.
On the way to the end point control of resources provides control of the people, because its a control mechanism that it being implemented. Catholicism has shown how deeply a set of instilled idea (heel fire) can control people. It makes perfect sense to have a one world religion. Christianity is not (in theory) loyal to the state (hence its prohibition in China).
It will be interesting to see what happens when 5g is rolled out (which is a battlefield weapon and hasn't had a penny spent on safety research). In laboratory conditions if you wanted to test a new drug to fight diabetes on rats (standard procedures in the development of clinical trials) you would need to induce diabetes like conditions in those rats; 5g works just fine.
08 Dec 19
@secondson saidIt's going into reverse now in some places.
@FMF
Since 1900 the global average life expectancy has more than doubled and is now above 70 years. The inequality of life expectancy is still very large across and within countries. in 2019 the country with the lowest life expectancy is the Central African Republic with 53 years, in Japan life expectancy is 30 years longer."
In the western world cancer rates have increased by 33% in the last 15 years (300% in India in the last two).
Survival rates from an individual spending 5 years on Chemotherapy is less than 5%. The Average life expectancy in America went into recession a few years ago. The UK has just followed suit.
Japan does indeed have a great life expectancy. Another group that has caught the eye is the Ashkanzi (European Jews of the line of Japheth that have migrated from the Caucasus - a common greeting is may you live to be 120 - they regularly get over 100. Clinical experiments are taking place to see if they can replicate this genetic enhancement - last that I heard they were going to trial Metformin, where patients apparently have also experienced unusually long lifetimes.
Just thought somebody might be interested.