24 Jan 12
Originally posted by twhiteheadWell, if you take the evolution parts out I do accept them 😉 although I am not really following them in detail as Astronomy.
But physics is only accepted by people believing in physics and chemistry is only accepted by people believing in chemistry etc.
You for example do not accept most of the following branches of science:
Astronomy
Geology
Biology
Archaeology
Cosmology
Should they all also have separate classes?
..and heck yes, keep it separated, it is too much to be combined in my opinion.
24 Jan 12
Originally posted by FMFI did say so..... 😉
What do I think about what? I asked you what do you think should be done about these people you call "child abusers". You haven't said yet.
Originally posted by Nicksten
When it comes to this - my mind goes crazy. I think physical and psychological child abusers must be locked away forever. There is no difference actually when it comes to a child been abused physically as this is also abused psychological in the end - I think.
....and now I am asking you, what do you think should be done?
24 Jan 12
Originally posted by Proper Knobas you are very well aware PK, it amounts to a materialistic point of view which all of
The explanation for the diversification of life on this planet ie, evolution, does not depend on the big bang or abiogenesis.
Have you ever read a book about evolution written by an evolutionary biologist?
these elements that you mention have in common.
24 Jan 12
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Originally posted by NickstenYou think people with different belief systems from you should be "locked away forever" for bringing up their own children as they see fit?
I did say so..... 😉
Originally posted by Nicksten
[b]When it comes to this - my mind goes crazy. I think physical and psychological child abusers must be locked away forever. There is no difference actually when it comes to a child been abused physically as this is also abused psychological in the end - I think.[/b]
24 Jan 12
Originally posted by FMFPutting it that way sounds different to FORCING the children to believe a clear lie. So to answer your question with respect, if my kid is forced to learn that lie, they have abused my kid. You will feel the same way if you don't want you kids to believe in Jesus Christ and it is being forced to them in school.
You think people with different belief systems from you should be "locked away forever" for bringing up their own children as they see fit?
24 Jan 12
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Originally posted by NickstenPlease explain how a universally accepted scientific fact is a 'lie'. Also i noticed you didn't answer my question from earlier - have you read a book written by an evolutionary biologist concerning evolution?
Putting it that way sounds different to FORCING the children to believe a clear lie. So to answer your question with respect, if my kid is forced to learn that lie, they have abused my kid. You will feel the same way if you don't want you kids to believe in Jesus Christ and it is being forced to them in school.
24 Jan 12
Originally posted by NickstenYou said they should be locked away forever, but now you don't seem to be saying they should be locked away forever anymore. Do you have the same mixed feelings or doubts about punishing people who abuse children physically?
Putting it that way sounds different to FORCING the children to believe a clear lie. So to answer your question with respect, if my kid is forced to learn that lie, they have abused my kid. You will feel the same way if you don't want you kids to believe in Jesus Christ and it is being forced to them in school.
24 Jan 12
Originally posted by NickstenHi Nicksten,
I haven't actually heard about this before now really - let me have a read and get back to you...
If you are serious about finding out what Christian scientists think, a good place to start would be at www.biologos.org. (Note: NOT biologos.com, which is a commercial site!)
I am probably what you would call a theistic evolutionist, and I would be happy to explore/explain this with you further.
24 Jan 12
Originally posted by Proper KnobThis argument, which has been heard so often, actually does not stand up to scrutiny.
What about letting the evidence be presented to your children and them making up their own minds?
For example, you probably have your children eat their broccoli and brush their teeth, right?
You don't wait until they are old enough to understand the concepts "tooth decay" and "Balanced nutrition".
Likewise, every conscientious parent, whether Hindu, Muslim or atheist, if they themselves are totally convinced of the correctness of their personal position, will teach their children likewise.
It's what parents do, and it is called raising children.
24 Jan 12
Originally posted by CalJustDo you think someone accusing those with a different belief system, who do "what parents do" in this regard, of being "child abusers", might be a poster - with tongue in cheek - trying to bring "their" [and your] religion into disrepute?
Likewise, every conscientious parent, whether Hindu, Muslim or atheist, if they themselves are totally convinced of the correctness of their personal position, will teach their children likewise.
It's what parents do, and it is called raising children.
24 Jan 12
Originally posted by CalJustChildren should be taught the ability to make up their own minds, especially with regards to the topic at hand.
This argument, which has been heard so often, actually does not stand up to scrutiny.
For example, you probably have your children eat their broccoli and brush their teeth, right?
You don't wait until they are old enough to understand the concepts "tooth decay" and "Balanced nutrition".
Likewise, every conscientious parent, whether Hindu, Muslim or ...[text shortened]... each their children likewise.
It's what parents do, and it is called raising children.
Not providing a child with adequate nutrition and not letting them brush their teeth would be detrimental to their health, i don't think you could say the same about teaching them a universally accepted scientific fact.
Incidentally, i have no children.