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05 Jul 11
Originally posted by RJHinds"If my understanding should be wrong..."
I don't see anything against calling an idiot an idiot in that.
It is talking about calling a brother or sister, "You fool" not idiot.
And besides I was not addressing a brother or sister anyway.
Also to say the truth should not be considered an insult, but a help.
But if my understanding should be wrong, I apologize and ask for
forgiveness.
Really? Do you really not understand this section of the Sermon? Really? I can explain it, but if you're really not understanding a section as clear as this, from Jesus' lips (if Matthew is to be believed), then you're not understanding not only a great deal of what Jesus says and teaches, but what Matthew proposes is essential in being a disciple and follower of Jesus. If you do not understand a passage as plain as this then I'm skeptical that you'll grasp the basic concept that Jesus is teaching by way of this passage. I'm skeptical as to what you are grasping in the rest of what Jesus is teaching, in this Sermon, in parables, and in his interactions with others as witnessed in any of the Gospels.
05 Jul 11
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Originally posted by BadwaterYou pontificate on and on, but provide no proof that my understanding
"If my understanding should be wrong..."
Really? Do you really not understand this section of the Sermon? Really? I can explain it, but if you're really not understanding a section as clear as this, from Jesus' lips (if Matthew is to be believed), then you're not understanding not only a great deal of what Jesus says and teaches, but what Matthew propose on, in parables, and in his interactions with others as witnessed in any of the Gospels.
is wrong and yours is right. I am waiting............
05 Jul 11
Originally posted by BadwaterHere is ABC News idea of the real or true Jesus from the Islamic and
The "real Jesus" is not to be found in a single verse, or a single Gospel. In fact, it is elusive to be found in the entirety of Biblical writings; be they orthodox, Septuagint, Apocryphal, or Gnostic. If the "real Jesus" were to be found, it would not be so open to wild interpretations that would appear to cover the spectrum of personal belief as opposed to finding a perspective of the "real Jesus" in exegetical or literal form.
Christian points of view. Take your pick.
05 Jul 11
Originally posted by RJHindsYou really don't read and you keep up copy-pasting material without understanding what exactly we are talking about!
By the 4th century CE the Trikāya Doctrine had assumed the form that we now know.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trikaya
As wikipedia points out it was not until the 4th century CE, that is the same
as AD, not BC. Anyway, it does not matter if it was originated by Satan in
4000 BC it does not have anything to do with the Trinity Doctrine of the
...[text shortened]... ee persons, God the Father,
God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. The angels knew the truth.
Again: the antecedents of the Mahayana Trikaya doctrine appear in the Pali Canon when Gautama Buddha tells Vasettha that the Tathagata (the Buddha) was "Dharmakaya", the “Truth-body” or the “Embodiment of Truth”, as well as "Dharmabhuta", “Truth-become”, that is, “One who has become Truth” (Digha Nikaya). Thus even before the Buddha's Parinirvana (499/8BC) the term “Dharmakaya” was current, and Dharmakaya without the concept of Trikaya is unconceivable.
Isaiah 6:1-13 is another story; even today it is very common to use a term three times in order to give the maximum emphasis. Also, this basic scheme of repetition is used in all the three abrahamic religions.
In fact, leaving aside the known interpretations from which the differ denominations of the Christian religion emerged, Isaiah never spoke clearly about a Triune God
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05 Jul 11
Originally posted by RJHindsyou have been found, not only be me, but by others to have transgressed the admonition of the Christ by terming others idiots. It is quite clear as badwater has pointed out. Why are you failing to acknowledge your sin? Keeping it bottled up will not help you RJH, we are counselled to freely confess our sins that we can gain forgiveness and repair our relationship with our God. Are you aware of the consequences of your actions, look at the outcome, you are liable for Ghenna, symbolic of eternal destruction. Its clearly a spiritual deficiency to term others idiots in the way that you have, but it can be sorted, if you would only confess your iniquity.
You pontificate on and on, but provide no proof that my understanding
is wrong and yours is right. I am waiting............
05 Jul 11
Originally posted by black beetleThe idea of the triune God is throughout the Old Testament and
You really don't read and you keep up copy-pasting material without understanding what exactly we are talking about!
Again: the antecedents of the Mahayana Trikaya doctrine appear in the Pali Canon when Gautama Buddha tells Vasettha that the Tathagata (the Buddha) was "Dharmakaya", the “Truth-body” or the “Embodiment of Truth”, as well as "Dharmabhu ...[text shortened]... tions of the Christian religion emerged, Isaiah never spoke clearly about a Triune God
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it was not spoken of clearly until Jesus revealed it. However,
apparently, Trikaya, also was not spoken of clearly until the 4th
century CE. And it is still not clear to me how you see it as a
pagan root to the Christian Trinity, especially since God existed
as a Triune God long before there was a Buddha.
05 Jul 11
Originally posted by RJHindsJesus revealed it? And exactly what scripture quotes Jesus explaining the trinity? If he did explain it I hate to say this but he didn't do a very good job of it as even you yourself can't explain it but yet your willing to bet your life on this.
The idea of the triune God is throughout the Old Testament and
it was not spoken of clearly until Jesus revealed it. However,
apparently, Trikaya, also was not spoken of clearly until the 4th
century CE. And it is still not clear to me how you see it as a
pagan root to the Christian Trinity, especially since God existed
as a Triune God long before there was a Buddha.
So again show us all the scriptures where Jesus explained this to us!!!!!
05 Jul 11
Originally posted by galveston75I haven't got enough time. But read the Holy Bible, but not the NWT.
Jesus revealed it? And exactly what scripture quotes Jesus explaining the trinity? If he did explain it I hate to say this but he didn't do a very good job of it as even you yourself can't explain it but yet your willing to bet your life on this.
So again show us all the scriptures where Jesus explained this to us!!!!!
05 Jul 11
Originally posted by RJHindsLol. Apparently your still unaware that none, not one, of the scriptures I've pasted on this forum have not been from the NWT. So this obsession you have with the NWT is foolish as the many, many points that I've personally shown you are from many, many translations and probably including yours.
I haven't got enough time. But read the Holy Bible, but not the NWT.
You need to concentrate on the subjects being discussed, prove your thoughts by scripture and get over this NWT phobia you have so deeply ingrained into your brain....
05 Jul 11
Originally posted by galveston75Then are you willing to throw the NWT in the trash and get yourself
Lol. Apparently your still unaware that none, not one, of the scriptures I've pasted on this forum have not been from the NWT. So this obsession you have with the NWT is foolish as the many, many points that I've personally shown you are from many, many translations and probably including yours.
You need to concentrate on the subjects being discussed, ...[text shortened]... hts by scripture and get over this NWT phobia you have so deeply ingrained into your brain....
a NASB, or even the NKJV will do?