Predestination and Noah's ark

Originally posted by FMF
I am asking you about this rationale behind gangsterism ~ which is what you appeared to be alluding to ~ i.e. "It is a matter of authority, it matters!" ~ when I asked you what is the Christian moral lesson to be drawn from your God figure's treatment of any innocents killed in the genocide he brought upon them.

I'm not going to repeat myself.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I'm not going to repeat myself.
Kelly

You don't need to. I am now quite keenly aware of the kind of thinking that underpins your moral compass.

Originally posted by FMF
You don't need to. I am now quite keenly aware of the kind of thinking that underpins your moral compass.

Why bother asking? If you know what I think it seems strange we had to
go pages after pages trying to get each other to see the other's point of
view.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
There isn't an innocent age of protection for children!

Alas, this appears to be the case in every genocide ~ including the one that you are defending ~ the flood. At least you're being up front about it.

Originally posted by FMF
Alas, this appears to be the case in every genocide ~ including the one that you are defending ~ the flood. At least you're being up front about it.

I don't call it genocide, I call it the judgment of God upon His creation.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
Why bother asking? If you know what I think it seems strange we had to
go pages after pages trying to get each other to see the other's point of
view.
Kelly

Your comments on this thread have been illuminating. No need to repeat any of them. They are there now to be read.

Originally posted by KellyJay
I don't call it genocide, I call it the judgment of God upon His creation.
Kelly

You can quibble the terminology all you want. I am using what I see as the correct word for what you have been describing.

Originally posted by FMF
You can quibble the terminology all you want. I am using what I see as the correct word for what you have been describing.

I don't care what you call it, unlike man God gives life and He takes it away.
If God did not give life there wouldn't be any.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
I don't care what you call it, unlike man God gives life and He takes it away.
If God did not give life there wouldn't be any.
Kelly

The rearing of the - 'God can do what He likes' defence!!!!

Disturbing to say the least.

Originally posted by KellyJay
I don't care what you call it, unlike man God gives life and He takes it away.
If God did not give life there wouldn't be any.
Kelly

You are just repeating yourself now. You said you weren't going to. You don't need to. I have the measure of your moral compass already, at least in so far as it pertains to your God figure. You have been clear.

Originally posted by sonhouse
One thing you haven't discussed is the fact (according to this tale) that ALL the land animals were included in this genocide. I don't know what to call this but extinction. All but a few of all the land animals AND humans.

Why would your god make a beautiful live filled planet and then destroy the genetic diversity of it all with such a cruel action.
...[text shortened]...

So there was no flood, Noah never built an Ark unless he was taking too many magic mushrooms.

I did discuss it, the leadership of the planet was man. When man fell he took
the whole planet down with him, the planet was cursed because of man. That
meant the whole thing was cursed not just the animals.
Kelly

Originally posted by Proper Knob
The rearing of the - 'God can do what He likes' defence!!!!

Disturbing to say the least.

God can do what He likes. That any different than within the limitation of
man at the moment he does too? Man will justify his actions if he feels like
it, so will God. You wish to stand in judgment of God or man that is up to
you.
Kelly

Originally posted by KellyJay
The world was full of sin, as I pointed out to you with respect to leadership
those in charge have the care of those under them. This goes to parents
too, if a parent leads his or her family down a path of destruction the family
goes down the path of destruction. This world does not make keep the
children from experiencing the heartache that their paren ...[text shortened]... them. God spared a
few and it did not take long before they started screwing up either.
Kelly

The world was full of sin


if the purpose of gods actions were to rid the world of sin, would you say the flood was a success?

Originally posted by KellyJay
God can do what He likes. That any different than within the limitation of
man at the moment he does too? Man will justify his actions if he feels like
it, so will God. You wish to stand in judgment of God or man that is up to
you.
Kelly

When you consider God is supposedly omnipotent, omniscient et al, he displayed a glaring lack of creativity when it came to solving the problem he was responsible for.

'The world's gone bad......what shall I do?............**** it! I'll kill everyone.'

Originally posted by KellyJay
Man will justify his actions if he feels like it, so will God. You wish to stand in judgment of God or man that is up to
you.

I don't accept that there is a God like the one you portray. So what is instead being judged here [in a spirit of robust discussion and debate] is your devotion to your God figure as you yourself portray Him.

As it happens, you seem content to stand in judgement of the innocents that lost their lives in the flood ["There isn't an innocent age of protection for children! "] and endorse your God figure's actions in that mass killing.

Consequently, you just have to accept that ~ in the market place of ideas ~ people will make what they will of your beliefs and how you justify them.