Premise: Objective morals do not exist

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
As I have explained to you on at least three prior occaions, yes, everybody is indeed entitled to an opinion, and If that opinion goes against the generally held consensus then it is considered aberrant. This is really so simple that even small children are able to grasp it, what part of it are you struggling with?

The problem I have with that is that rape is always wrong even if the generally held consensus was that it wasn't wrong.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
I am guessing if I quoted from a book he published expressing his morality and ideological beliefs you would question whether he really believed what he wrote?

Perhaps you should try quoting rather than guessing what my response would be?

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
Perhaps you should try quoting rather than guessing what my response would be?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf

Mein Kampf, in essence, lays out the ideological program Hitler established for the German revolution, by identifying the Jews and "Bolsheviks" as racially and ideologically inferior and threatening, and "Aryans" and National Socialists as racially superior and politically progressive.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mein_Kampf

Mein Kampf, in essence, lays out the ideological program Hitler established for the German revolution, by identifying the Jews and "Bolsheviks" as racially and ideologically inferior and threatening, and "Aryans" and National Socialists as racially superior and politically progressive.

I am familiar with the book. I do not however recall any point where the writer lays out a belief that it is morally 'right' to eliminate those peoples he identifies as inferior.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
The problem I have with that is that rape is always wrong even if the generally held consensus was that it wasn't wrong.

And yet your scripture is notably ambivalent on this issue. From where are you getting your objective moral code if it is not the bible?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
If there were no scenario you could conceive whereby the theory of gravity would not apply would you be happy to concede that gravity is objectively true?

I have already addressed my take on your use of the word "objective" and "objectivity" as a label for your subjective personal opinions and morals. I refer you to that.

Originally posted by @dj2becker
A subjective truth is a truth based off of a person's perspective, feelings, or opinions not on a fact.

Objective means the state or quality of being true or factual.

Well I guess that Jesus words are objective truth but the trouble is that his words, as much in the bible, is open to interpretation.

Anyway are you up for the challenge or not?
Looks like you're not, which doesn't surprise me.

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
And yet your scripture is notably ambivalent on this issue. From where are you getting your objective moral code if it is not the bible?

Where does the Bible say rape is good?

Originally posted by @avalanchethecat
I am familiar with the book. I do not however recall any point where the writer lays out a belief that it is morally 'right' to eliminate those peoples he identifies as inferior.

So are you saying that even Hitler knew his actions were wrong?

Originally posted by @fmf
I have already addressed my take on your use of the word "objective" and "objectivity" as a label for your subjective personal opinions and morals. I refer you to that.

Your dodge is noted again.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Well I guess that Jesus words are objective truth but the trouble is that his words, as much in the bible, is open to interpretation.

Anyway are you up for the challenge or not?
Looks like you're not, which doesn't surprise me.

Which of his words with regards to morality do you think are unclear or open to interpretation ?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
Your dodge is noted again.

It's isn't a dodge. I view what you are doing as trolling. And I am not willing to play along. Go back and look again at my take on your use of the word "objective" and "objectivity" to label your subjective opinions.

Originally posted by @fmf
It's isn't a dodge. I view what you are doing as trolling. And I am not willing to play along. Go back and look again at my take on your use of the word "objective" and "objectivity" to label your subjective opinions.

How exactly are the words in the Bible my subjective opinions?

Originally posted by @dj2becker
How exactly are the words in the Bible my subjective opinions?

I have already discussed this with you in detail. I won't repeat myself. You are trolling.

Originally posted by @fmf
I have already discussed this with you in detail. I won't repeat myself. You are trolling.

The fact that you reject the Bible as your objective standard doesn’t mean that I do.