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@tom-wolsey said
Well, I can remember cringing when Obama would make reference to the bible... as if... so at least I can relate.

Why don’t you “cringe” when Trump makes reference to the bible?

@tom-wolsey said

So, since just about everyone but the people who would benefit from the tear-gassing claim says tear gas wasn't used... what makes you so sure about it Because the Trump-hating, politically motivated bishop says so?

Do you think that the only reason the bishop spoke out was politically motivated?

@tom-wolsey said
Why does it matter what message I think Trump delivered to other Christians? Shouldn't you ask them directly?

You ARE being asked directly!

Why be so furtive? You voted for Trump, you are a supporter of Trump, you are a Christian, you are being asked.

@deepthought said
The imagery was, well, interesing, he was clutching a bible upside down, think about what it would have indicated had he had hold of a cross.

SWASTIKA the neo nazi hellhound

@badradger said
SWASTIKA the neo nazi hellhound

No, what I was thinking is that an upside down cross, at least in Hammer Horror films, is a Satanist symbol - haven't you seen Lust for a Vampire?

@divegeester said
Why don’t you “cringe” when Trump makes reference to the bible?

I didn't say I don't.

@divegeester said
You ARE being asked directly!

Why be so furtive? You voted for Trump, you are a supporter of Trump, you are a Christian, you are being asked.

Oh puh-lease. I was asked what OTHER Christians think.

@fmf said
Ok, then, "technically", if that's what you want, what do you think was the spiritual dimension and meaning to the recent event where Trump help up a Bible?

Technically I think every significant event is pre-ordained by God. For His own reasons. Trump pissed a lot of people off. He also, I'm sure, fired up his evangelical base. These things can lead to, literally, "God knows what." I don't know. I just believe things are going according to plan.

@tom-wolsey said
Technically I think every significant event is pre-ordained by God. For His own reasons. Trump pissed a lot of people off. He also, I'm sure, fired up his evangelical base. These things can lead to, literally, "God knows what." I don't know. I just believe things are going according to plan.

"Technically" speaking, what is the spiritual message ~ not a political one ~ with which you think Trump has "fired up" evangelical Christians? You seem intent on talking about a political dimension but I am interested in what spiritual message for Christians you perceive there to be. This is a question about spirituality not politics.

@tom-wolsey said
I didn't say I don't.

Don’t run away!

So you do cringe when Trump mentions the bible?

@tom-wolsey said
Oh puh-lease. I was asked what OTHER Christians think.

You’re running away a lot today.

No you weren’t! You were asked what message YOU think Trump delivered to fellow Christians.

A bit of a coward aren’t you...

@tom-wolsey said
Trump pissed a lot of people off. He also, I'm sure, fired up his evangelical base.

Well YOU are part of his evangelical base aren’t you?

You voted for Trump
You’re in these forums defending Trump
You’ll vote for him next time
You’re a right wing evangelical Christian

You’re part of his evangelical Christian base.

@tom-wolsey said
Technically I think every significant event is pre-ordained by God. For His own reasons.

So you believe that God wanted and chose and established the authority of both Obama and Trump ~ for example ~ to be your president, as referred to in Romans 13?

@ogb said
so what's wrong with our President Trump holding up a Bible in front of a church? the (female) Bishop didnt care for it...

God was showing you who the tears among the wheat were, the Laodicean church people, and the apostate church, by Trump holding up the Bible.

@rbhill said
God was showing you who the tears among the wheat were, the Laodicean church people, and the apostate church, by Trump holding up the Bible.

So who are these apostates?

Is Trump part of this group? In what way?