Originally posted by robbie carrobieFrom http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Miscarriage.htm
why abortion?
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of
potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all
abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
http://abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html
how are you going to justify thi ...[text shortened]... Fabian? what wicked reasoning shall you try to
employ to implement your materialistic agenda?
About 1 in 7 confirmed pregnancies end in miscarriage. But, the rate of miscarriage is much higher than this. As many as 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage. This is because in many cases a very early pregnancy ends before you miss a period, and before you are aware that you are pregnant.
So vastly more babies die naturally before they are born then are deliberately aborted. If it is such a bad thing to prevent an unaware collection of cells from developing into a person then the individual who is capable of preventing this carnage is deeply culpable and your god concept is a monster. Or would be if it were any more than a concept.
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13 Feb 12
Originally posted by Penguinexcellent point.
From http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Miscarriage.htm
[i]About 1 in 7 [b]confirmed pregnancies end in miscarriage. But, the rate of miscarriage is much higher than this. As many as 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage. This is because in many cases a very early pregnancy ends before you miss a period, and before you are aware that you are pregnant.[/i ...[text shortened]... d your god concept is a monster. Or would be if it were any more than a concept.
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it always seems to me that christians are happy to point in gods direction when something good happens, but if its something bad 'its just nature' never questioning why their god has created nature to be the way it is.
13 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieand 30-50% of all conceptions are aborted by biblegod.
why abortion?
1% of all abortions occur because of rape or incest; 6% of abortions occur because of
potential health problems regarding either the mother or child, and 93% of all
abortions occur for social reasons (i.e. the child is unwanted or inconvenient).
http://abortionno.org/Resources/fastfacts.html
how are you going to justify thi ...[text shortened]... Fabian? what wicked reasoning shall you try to
employ to implement your materialistic agenda?
he's murdered more babies than anyone.
13 Feb 12
Originally posted by VoidSpiritis this the best you materialists can do? Blame God because of aberration in what
and 30-50% of all conceptions are aborted by biblegod.
he's murdered more babies than anyone.
should be a natural process? you have no proof that God is involved at all, whereas its
self evident that those who sanction abortion are reasonable for the taking of innocent
human life and why, for convenience sake, i dont think i can think of anything more
morally reprehensible and sickening, clearly your conscience does not work otherwise
you would be ashamed of such a stance and to rationalise in such terms as, God also
does it is as weak and beggarly an argument as i think i have heard on these forums,
you are talking pure unadulterated nonsense. Is this really the best you can proffer?
13 Feb 12
Originally posted by SwissGambitwe do, we give them names, they are not dead to us, but will be resurrected in the
If abortion is the taking of human life, then why don't we typically have funerals for unborn children who die? We usually don't even give them names.
resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous.
13 Feb 12
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riginally posted by Pengupiece of nonsense, God is not responsible for any aberration in what should be a
m http://www.patient.co.uk/health/Miscarriage.htm
About 1 in nfirregnancies end in miscarriage. But, the rate of miscarriage is much higher than this. As many as 1 in 4 pregnancies end in miscarriage. This is because in many cases a very early pregnancy ends before you miss a period, and before you are aware that you are pregnant shorte ... d your god concept is a monster. Or would be if it were any more than a concept.
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natural events nor can you prove that it is the case, you are simply trying to shift the
blame, a rather unimaginative and predictable attempt and my friend dont think it in
any way excuses the practice of deliberately aborting human life, you have no right to
do so and you have no excuses, you people are the monsters. For convenience sake?
sickest thing I've heard in my life, you aught to be ashamed you support such a
practice.
13 Feb 12
Originally posted by stellspalfieGod never created it to be this way, the system was subject to futility, but you, unaware
excellent point.
it always seems to me that christians are happy to point in gods direction when something good happens, but if its something bad 'its just nature' never questioning why their god has created nature to be the way it is.
of that fact continue to make ludicrous unsubstantiated and ignorant claims. 97
percent aborted because of 'convenience', a monstrous and damning reality and
reflective of the pure folly of the materialist.
13 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieall natural processes are biblegod's domain. this claim is made in the bible itself where biblegod confesses to be the author of all evil (calamity), which includes all natural processes.
is this the best you materialists can do? Blame God because of aberration in what
should be a natural process? you have no proof that God is involved at all, whereas its
self evident that those who sanction abortion are reasonable for the taking of innocent
human life and why, for convenience sake, i dont think i can think of anything more ...[text shortened]... forums,
you are talking pure unadulterated nonsense. Is this really the best you can proffer?
this however is not an argument for or against abortion. it's an argument to destroy religious notions that abortion is anti-biblical. weather you like it or not, biblegod is responsible for most abortions.
13 Feb 12
Originally posted by googlefudge"And unsafe abortions lead to deaths, lots of them. "
There is plenty of research that has been done in in many different nations over the years that shows
that the number of abortions being done isn't really significantly affected by whether or not it is legal.
There will obviously be some who wont have an abortion because it is illegal, but statistically it doesn't
seem to make a significant differ ...[text shortened]... ere is in believing things based on faith as opposed to reason and evidence.
All successful abortions lead to death.
Kelly
13 Feb 12
Originally posted by VoidSpiritpiece of nonsense, unsubstantiated and without proof, a weak attempt to shift the
all natural processes are biblegod's domain. this claim is made in the bible itself where biblegod confesses to be the author of all evil (calamity), which includes all natural processes.
this however is not an argument for or against abortion. it's an argument to destroy religious notions that abortion is anti-biblical. weather you like it or not, biblegod is responsible for most abortions.
blame from your murderous materialists, you are the ones to blame for the 115,000
innocent deaths today.
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13 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobiejust because i dont think abortion is murder doesnt mean that i think all abortion is okay. i think most abortions could be avoided if teenager had decent sex ed at school and their parents gave them enough hope and ambition in there lives so they want to make the effort not to get pregnant. its an horrible thing to go through and i dont take it lightly, but in some situations it should be an option.
God never created it to be this way, the system was subject to futility, but you, unaware
of that fact continue to make ludicrous unsubstantiated and ignorant claims. 97
percent aborted because of 'convenience', a monstrous and damning reality and
reflective of the pure folly of the materialist.
13 Feb 12
Originally posted by stellspalfiefolly of moral relativism and materialistic thinking, see to it!
just because i dont think abortion is murder doesnt mean that i think all abortion is okay. i think most abortions could be avoided if teenager had decent sex ed at school and their parents gave them enough hope and ambition in there lives so they want to make the effort not to get pregnant. its an horrible thing to go through and i dont take it lightly, but in some situations it should be an option.
13 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieReally?
we do, we give them names, they are not dead to us, but will be resurrected in the
resurrection of the righteous and the unrighteous.
I've heard "she had a miscarriage" before, but never "she lost her son Zach because of a miscarriage".
And I'm still wondering why we don't have funerals for them if they are fully human when they die. Any comment on that?
13 Feb 12
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo your god concept, who created the entire universe including all living things, who loves every living thing, who considers the death of the unborn child even hours after conception is abhorrent, is incapable of ensuring that fertilised eggs implant in the womb?
piece of nonsense, God is not responsible for any aberration in what should be a
natural events nor can you prove that it is the case, you are simply trying to shift the
blame, a rather unimaginative and predictable attempt and my friend dont think it in
any way excuses the practice of deliberately aborting human life, you have no right to
do ...[text shortened]... ?
sickest thing I've heard in my life, you aught to be ashamed you support such a
practice.
Which of the following statements is false, because they can't all be true...
1 - Your God loves every living thing.
2 - Your God considers the death of an unborn human child, right from the moment of conception, to be abhorrent.
3 - Your God, powerful enough to create the entire universe and all within it, is perfectly capable of ensuring that an unborn child implants into the womb within hours of fertilisation.
Which of these statements is false?
Or is it justified and not abhorrent to allow such a thing to happen by inaction? If you were walking by the side of a lake and you saw a drowning child in the lake, within easy reach, would it be moral to walk on and, by inaction, allow that child to die?
Just waiting for the un-justifiable cop-out of original sin to crop up. Its been alluded to already.
And this is not really to justify abortion as moral, but to say that if it is as immoral as you say then your own God is far more culpable than we are since he is capable of stopping every single natural miscarriage but chooses not to.
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