14 Feb 12
Originally posted by Proper Knobrubbish, how many Jehovahs Witnesses have died today claiming the right of self
Doesn't cut it, your sick religious views show the same contempt for human life.
determination, how many abortions have been carried out by the materialist, 115,000!
You are the sicko's, denying life! on the basis of convenience!
14 Feb 12
Originally posted by FMFrubbish, the decision is taken not on behalf of other people but by the individual them
Refusal to give a blood to save someone's life condemns that person to death, no matter how you attempt to parse it.
self, a rather fatal flaw in your erroneous assertion. Please note the term, self
determination.
14 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo just because abortion claims more 'innocent' lives than denial of transfusions it's more evil?
rubbish, how many Jehovahs Witnesses have died today claiming the right of self
determination, how many abortions have been carried out by the materialist, 115,000!
You are the sicko's, denying life! on the basis of convenience!
14 Feb 12
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou condemn every son and daughter who cannot speak for themselves. You've said this before. The parents decide for them.
we have condemned no one to death, each individual is free to chose the right of self
determination, that is a personal choice, please note the term personal, it does not
condemn other people to death, a rather fatal flaw in your argument! Florid, I like!
You also condemn every one who has no choice for themselves, those unconsious due to an accident or other medical condition that makes them unable to express their will.
The choice is life or death. Life with the aid of blood transfusion, death because the JW principles.
Mr Galve and I have discussed earlier the unavailability of bloodless surgery. He avoid to admit that I was right because he knows it.
No JWer should discuss abortions before the the discusion about blood transfusion is clearad.
14 Feb 12
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieDouble post due to irritating lock-up of website.
rubbish, how many Jehovahs Witnesses have died today claiming the right of self
determination, how many abortions have been carried out by the materialist, 115,000!
You are the sicko's, denying life! on the basis of convenience!
14 Feb 12
Originally posted by FabianFnasrubbish, you dont know anything about British law and minors.
You condemn every son and daughter who cannot speak for themselves. You've said this before. The parents decide for them.
You also condemn every one who has no choice for themselves, those unconsious due to an accident or other medical condition that makes them unable to express their will.
The choice is life or death. Life with the aid of blood trans ...[text shortened]...
No JWer should discuss abortions before the the discusion about blood transfusion is clearad.
14 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieI don't ever recall denying anyone's life, and secondly your transfusion refusal is based on your own self interest ie. your selfish desire to live forever. Denying life on the basis of convenience!!!!!
rubbish, how many Jehovahs Witnesses have died today claiming the right of self
determination, how many abortions have been carried out by the materialist, 115,000!
You are the sicko's, denying life! on the basis of convenience!
14 Feb 12
Originally posted by avalanchethecatIt is more evil because it denies life to other people, self determination denies life to no
So just because abortion claims more 'innocent' lives than denial of transfusions it's more evil?
one but those who claim it and even in such instances, all alternative and available
treatment is sought, this is not the case with the abortion bin!
14 Feb 12
Originally posted by Proper Knobclaiming the right of self determination harms no one but the claimant, FAIL, all who
I don't ever recall denying anyone's life, and secondly your transfusion refusal is based on your own self interest ie. your selfish desire to live forever. Denying life on the basis of convenience!!!!!
support the abortion issue are guilty through association of the unlawful killing of
115,000 innocents through moral support.
14 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou appear to be overlooking those cases of JW parents refusing to allow blood transfusion to their offspring. And indeed, overlooking the fact that your faith expects it's adherents to die rather than accept this life-saving treatment.
It is more evil because it denies life to other people, self determination denies life to no
one but those who claim it and even in such instances, all alternative and available
treatment is sought, this is not the case with the abortion bin!
14 Feb 12
Originally posted by robbie carrobieNo it doesn't. You wouldn't give a blood transfusion even if that procedure was the only option to save that persons life. If the only two options were your blood or death, you would choose death. You would do so for your own selfish interests.
claiming the right of self determination harms no one but the claimant, FAIL, all who
support the abortion issue are guilty through association of the unlawful killing of
115,000 innocents through moral support.
14 Feb 12
Originally posted by avalanchethecatin the United Kingdom it is the Law that if a consultant wishes to administer blood to a
You appear to be overlooking those cases of JW parents refusing to allow blood transfusion to their offspring. And indeed, overlooking the fact that your faith expects it's adherents to die rather than accept this life-saving treatment.
minor they may do so, your assertion therefore as far as i am aware has no basis in
the United Kingdom, nor in Canada nor anywhere else where the rights of minors are
protected by Law. Clearly as someone who supports abortion, you are unconcerned
with the rights of children, especially those who would wish to have the right to be born.