Spirituality
14 Dec 09
17 Dec 09
Originally posted by josephwOK...Simple questions....
The deity of Christ is a cardinal doctrine. The Holy Spirit reveals the Truth of God's Word to the believer. If one denies the teaching of scripture, i.e. Jesus is God in the flesh, then that one doesn't know the Jesus of the Bible.
They may know what the Bible teaches concerning many things about Jesus, but denying that Jesus is God means one doesn't KNOW the real Jesus.
1) Why did Jesus ever say he was God Almighty?
2) Why are the terms Father & Son even used in the Bible?
3) Why does the Holy Spirit or Ghost not have a name?
4) Why does Jesus say there are things he does not know but only the Father knows?
4 simple quesions of many that can be asked.
17 Dec 09
Originally posted by Rajk999i definitely think its possible you could be wrong.
I fully understand.
The JWs think you are hopelessly lost becuase your doctrine is false.
Your kind thinks the JWs are hopelessly lost becuase their doctrine is false.
Do you think its possible that you are both wrong?
17 Dec 09
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Originally posted by galveston75So even if it was your sister (according to the scenoario given to robbie), and if she was unconcious and therefore couldn't tell you, you would still deny her blood transfusion? You would honour her testimony and you would agree to send her to her death, even though you could save her life by admitting her a saving blood transfusion?
Wether it be a blood trans or whatever medical wishes she had, especially if those wishes were in writing in a Medical Directive, that is the wish I would honor.
Your answer is consistent to robbies, but I would please like you to confirm that I have understood you correctly...
17 Dec 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobiewhat if you are wrong? and you have not been a recipient of the holy spirit and God has not revealed to you the true nature of Christ?
what if you are wrong? and you have not been a recipient of the holy spirit and God has not revealed to you the true nature of Christ?
How in fact is it possible to see God, for the scripture indicated that no man has seen God at any-time? but plenty of people saw Jesus Christ. How is it possible for God to die? for Christ came in order that h ...[text shortened]...
(Matthew 15:6-7) . . .And so you have made the word of God invalid because of your tradition.
How can I be wrong? It is what the scriptures teach.
One day we should try and have a friendly discussion about it.
17 Dec 09
Originally posted by Rajk999My kind?
I fully understand.
The JWs think you are hopelessly lost becuase your doctrine is false.
Your kind thinks the JWs are hopelessly lost becuase their doctrine is false.
Do you think its possible that you are both wrong?
No one is hopelessly lost unless the die in their sins.
It is not possible that I'm wrong. At least not about the deity of Christ.
But I am open to discussion.
17 Dec 09
Originally posted by PBE6There are roughly seven million Jehovahs witnesses with around eight thousand claiming a heavenly hope. This later number diminishes every year 🙂
How many Jehovah's witnesses have died since the movement's inception? Are all 144,000 spots taken already?
17 Dec 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieHow do they claim a heavenly hope? What about the witnesses that have died already? Do they not get to be part of the 144,000?
There are roughly seven million Jehovahs witnesses with around eight thousand claiming a heavenly hope. This later number diminishes every year 🙂
17 Dec 09
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Originally posted by PBE6Hi, you must understand that not all witnesses claim a heavenly hope, for there are two distinct hopes. Those who have the hope of going to heaven to be with Christ and make up members of 'New Jerusalem', and those whose hope it is to reside upon the earth in a restored paradise 'the meek shall inherit the earth'. Both of these scenarios can be biblically established. what happens to those who have died? They are awaiting the resurrection with the rest of mankind. All good people do not go to heaven and all those judged to be unworthy, do not go to hell. it is a nonsense and a mockery of scripture to assume that this is the case! i myself have no intention nor any desire to go to heaven to be with Christ.
How do they claim a heavenly hope? What about the witnesses that have died already? Do they not get to be part of the 144,000?
17 Dec 09
Originally posted by robbie carrobieSo the dead are just hanging around?
Hi, you must understand that not all witnesses claim a heavenly hope, for there are two distinct hopes. Those who have the hope of going to heaven to be with Christ and make up members of 'New Jerusalem', and those whose hope it is to reside upon the earth in a restored paradise 'the meek shall inherit the earth'. Both of these scenarios can be bib ...[text shortened]... s is the case! i myself have no intention nor any desire to go to heaven to be with Christ.
17 Dec 09
Originally posted by josephwChrist and God are two separate and distinct entities according to Paul:
My kind?
No one is hopelessly lost unless the die in their sins.
It is not possible that I'm wrong. At least not about the deity of Christ.
But I am open to discussion.
1Cor 11:3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God.
So you therefore believe that there are TWO GODS..?
17 Dec 09
Originally posted by galveston75What do you mean? You mean all the people who have died to this point are just gone? I actually have no problem with this, as I don't believe in god or the everlasting soul, I'm just surprised to hear that the dead witnesses are gone for good.
Dead means dead....
17 Dec 09
Originally posted by PBE6None of the dead are gone for good as the bible speaks of a heavenly and an earthly resurrection.
What do you mean? You mean all the people who have died to this point are just gone? I actually have no problem with this, as I don't believe in god or the everlasting soul, I'm just surprised to hear that the dead witnesses are gone for good.