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03 Jun 17
Originally posted by Executioner BrandSorry but that bares no relation to the psychiatry and treatment i'm familiar with.
what about a long term basis? you yourself noted the benefits on electrocution but what happens to those people due to #TBI. You also create problems you ignore.
i once had a past patient from Lake Alice having a fit outside my front gate. you could find positive benefits electrocuting her but it wouldn't've been good for her future only for the psychiatrist who got to make them electrocute each other's genital.
03 Jun 17
Originally posted by Executioner BrandI didn't ask if you were religious.
People think the way forward is investing more money into the mental health system which fails. Due to Mike King the suicides of mental health patients are getting a lot of views over here although not much criticism of the medications, more the system's failures. It just creates more funding for what has been proven a failure which I believe is th ...[text shortened]... .. not by choice like the mental health act. Both believe in ideology which isn't built on fact.
Look, I do sympathize with your points here, however mental health is in it's infancy. And seeing how we are not agreed on the fundamental condition of (wo)man ,( look at just about any thread here), it is understandable the society has problems dealing with mental patients.
It's not ok, I'm not saying it is. Just the way it is.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
Sorry but that bares no relation to the psychiatry and treatment i'm familiar with.
Your line of psychiatry may not be extreme but sees benefits in prescribing anti-psychotic medications. You see well-being while I see humans made useless and incapacitated from life struggling to have coherent conversations from the planet you stuck them on. ...[text shortened]... electrocution of genital cures mental illness. You believe anti-psychotics do. You live a delusion.
04 Jun 17
Your line of psychiatry may not be extreme but sees benefits in prescribing anti-psychotic medications. You see well-being while I see humans made useless and incapacitated from life struggling to have coherent conversations from the planet you stuck them on. You ignore all negatives for positives and miss out on the honesty of life living in a make-believe world of being cured.
You are no different from the doctor who believed electrocution of genital cures mental illness. You believe anti-psychotics do. You live a delusion.
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04 Jun 17
Originally posted by Executioner BrandWhile you focus on the negatives and give no air time to the positives.
Your line of psychiatry may not be extreme but sees benefits in prescribing anti-psychotic medications. You see well-being while I see humans made useless and incapacitated from life struggling to have coherent conversations from the planet you stuck them on. You ignore all negatives for positives and miss out on the honesty of life living in a mak ...[text shortened]... ctrocution of genital cures mental illness. You believe anti-psychotics do. You live a delusion.
I've worked with thousands of people struggling with mental health issues. I see the bigger picture while you only glimpse a personal corner you have put yourself in.
For some people the drugs work. Deal with it.
04 Jun 17
Originally posted by Executioner Brand...Just stop it. One size does not fit all. We are talking about brain chemistry, and there is not a more complicated subject.
You are no different from the doctor who believed electrocution of genital cures mental illness. You believe anti-psychotics do. You live a delusion.
04 Jun 17
Originally posted by apathistYeah, look at poor Tiger Woods. Arrested for DUI when he had no alcohol on his system.
Just stop it. One size does not fit all. We are talking about brain chemistry, and there is not a more complicated subject.
He claimed he had a reaction to prescription meds. I believe him.
08 Jun 17
Originally posted by apathistWe are talking about people who believe they are healing people but they come out worse then being prayed for by a Catholic pastor.
Just stop it. One size does not fit all. We are talking about brain chemistry, and there is not a more complicated subject.
Brain chemistry that mysteriously cannot be explained how it helps the mentally ill other then faith and magic.
08 Jun 17
Originally posted by Ghost of a DukeI do not see any positives in those I have met on anti-psychotic medications other then you couldn't get with sleeping pills to omit them from life and their problems. You do not give the mentally ill a chance you take away their chances to become something in life. Where is the person you were talking about getting electrocuted now that he has experienced these positive effects? Probably the same person but dealing with the effects of brain damage as well.
While you focus on the negatives and give no air time to the positives.
I've worked with thousands of people struggling with mental health issues. I see the bigger picture while you only glimpse a personal corner you have put yourself in.
For some people the drugs work. Deal with it.
Seeing you're considering yourself an expert have you tried anti-psychotic medications. Or do you not want to harm your own brain?
08 Jun 17
Originally posted by Executioner BrandOnce again you are generalizing.
We are talking about people who believe they are healing people but they come out worse then being prayed for by a Catholic pastor.
Brain chemistry that mysteriously cannot be explained how it helps the mentally ill other then faith and magic.
I would submit that the N.Z. and aussie systems aren't all that different.
I have been in mental health care for a decade. Seen and talked to many other patients, had around a dozen consellors myself.
Been on r'zone , and 3 of the main other psych meds.
None of them worked on me however I did know a few people who swore by them. More importantly their friends and family swore by them. Said that they made them 'better' all round.
You do highlight some glaring points in treating mental health.
I would say that all in all, it's still better to seek help for mental problems than not. If only to talk about it.
I was diagnosed 'schizophrenic ' for some years before I realized it was anxiety disorder more than anything. I did find this realization myself but good mental health professionals have helped me come to that point.
Ghost being one of them
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08 Jun 17
Originally posted by Executioner BrandWhy would i take anti-psychotic medication? I don't have a mental health condition.
I do not see any positives in those I have met on anti-psychotic medications other then you couldn't get with sleeping pills to omit them from life and their problems. You do not give the mentally ill a chance you take away their chances to become something in life. Where is the person you were talking about getting electrocuted now that he has exp ...[text shortened]... an expert have you tried anti-psychotic medications. Or do you not want to harm your own brain?
You do get that such medication is only prescribed to people who have a need for it, and that many would end up in hospital 'without' it?
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08 Jun 17
Originally posted by Executioner BrandIt happens every day. I have many schizophrenic clients who are doing well on medication and have broken the pattern of mental health relapse and hospital admission.
you can hear lots of benefits from psychiatrists as result of their own work but you never hear from a schizophrenic who was saved by them because it never happens.