Spirituality
09 Apr 07
Originally posted by sonhouseYou sound like Arrakis. 😞 I have never really understood this striving for immortality, be it your own or some sort of genetic immortality which of course you won't live to see anyway. As I work with children and try to improve their life, it is likely that the effects of my work will last longer than my own life. But I rather see this as a side-effect of my work than as a goal. I see it as just as valuable and meaningful to help a dying child. It doesn't change the future, but it changes the present. It doesn't make sense to me to value the future more than the present.
We are but vessels for our eggs and sperm so our ultimate goal is to get copies of those two things as far into the future as possible. Having done that, you will live on in memory and being in another and may even be remembered for your works.
no need to have to invoke some god when we already have a sense of genetic immortality.
Originally posted by wittywonkaThis is how my EMT book says that most people cope by emotion.
This may seem obvious, but that shows what I know. How do Atheists cope with the idea of death? I mean, when my mind wanders through various topics, I tremble at the idea of death, but then I feel reassured by the idea of Christian heaven, and then when I have my skeptical moments about Christianity, I have to wrestle with the idea even more...
Anyway, I know it all sounds a bit cheesy, but how do you do it?
The Five Emotional Stages
1. Denial (not me.)
2. Anger (Why Me?)
3. Bargaining (Okay, but first let me....)
4. Depression (Okay, but I haven't....)
5. Acceptance (Okay, I am not afraid)
Originally posted by NordlysThat is not a goal, genetic immortality, it's a fact, at least if you have children and the human race doesn't die off in the next thousand years or so. I was just pointing out you don't need to constantly referance a god to define each individual existance. It's not especially a big deal with me personally. I live my life as best as I can, knowing it will end someday, hopefully a long ways in the future but not worrying about it much.
You sound like Arrakis. 😞 I have never really understood this striving for immortality, be it your own or some sort of genetic immortality which of course you won't live to see anyway. As I work with children and try to improve their life, it is likely that the effects of my work will last longer than my own life. But I rather see this as a side-effect of m ...[text shortened]... t changes the present. It doesn't make sense to me to value the future more than the present.
Originally posted by bot 6Pray tell why?
atheist is just another word for ignorant
I'm interested to hear your logic surrounding this one.
I mean, I'm an atheist. I have a PhD. Am I ignorant? My PhD supervisor had a PhD too, and was also an atheist. Is he ignorant? In fact, most of the educated people I know are atheists.
Originally posted by scottishinnzsome atheists might be ignorant about religions
Pray tell why?
I'm interested to hear your logic surrounding this one.
I mean, I'm an atheist. I have a PhD. Am I ignorant? My PhD supervisor had a PhD too, and was also an atheist. Is he ignorant? In fact, most of the educated people I know are atheists.
Originally posted by scottishinnzhonestly i think atheist actually do believe in God, they just don't want anything to do with religion....
Pray tell why?
I'm interested to hear your logic surrounding this one.
I mean, I'm an atheist. I have a PhD. Am I ignorant? My PhD supervisor had a PhD too, and was also an atheist. Is he ignorant? In fact, most of the educated people I know are atheists.
Originally posted by scottishinnzphd is just another word for talking out of my a$$, anyone can philosophy....im talking about being ignorant about the universe.
Pray tell why?
I'm interested to hear your logic surrounding this one.
I mean, I'm an atheist. I have a PhD. Am I ignorant? My PhD supervisor had a PhD too, and was also an atheist. Is he ignorant? In fact, most of the educated people I know are atheists.