29 Apr 22
@kevin-eleven saidThere is plenty to discuss, you’re just not very good at it. This is probably because you don’t care about anyone or anything.
As I forced myself to at least start mowing the lawn this afternoon, it occurred to me that we spend so much time of our relatively short lifespans wrangling over transitory issues, but when it comes to the non-transitory, there's really nothing to discuss: It just is and continues to be.
29 Apr 22
@divegeester saidKellyJay…over here mate, these questions are still here for you 😉
Nevermind all that. Here are the questions I’ve asked you
1) Is all the stuff about lakes of fire and brimstone and the eternal burning of non Christians therein, literal or metaphor?
2) Is everything in the bible “FACT”?
You either are a man of god and courage and can answer these questions directly, or, you are just another religionist flake on the internet.
It’s amusing to watch you duck and dive the real key issues. No wonder you are not permitted to teach in your church.
@divegeester saidI'm glad you are amused, and the real key issues you blow off in scripture as you do things said in answer to what you ask. Answers and scriptures seem to go right over your head. Your assumptions about my life are not on solid ground, yet you turn to your imagination as if it were something substantive to make the proclamations you do.
KellyJay…over here mate, these questions are still here for you 😉
It’s amusing to watch you duck and dive the real key issues. No wonder you are not permitted to teach in your church.
29 Apr 22
@kellyjay saidNever mind all that KellyJay. Let’s get back to your claim that you have “never stated that everything in the bible is fact”
I'm glad you are amused, and the real key issues you blow off in scripture as you do things said in answer to what you ask. Answers and scriptures seem to go right over your head. Your assumptions about my life are not on solid ground, yet you turn to your imagination as if it were something substantive to make the proclamations you do.
So then I’m asking you directly
Is everything in the bible “FACT”?
And subsequently to that ..
Is all the stuff about lakes of fire and brimstone and the eternal burning of non Christians therein, literal or metaphor?
Let hear you then!
@divegeester saidI answered you directly, but I will do this for you if you think I have not. You have claimed you have read my responses, but the answer you reject just tell me why it does not answer you. Quote me here, and let's break down why what I have said does not answer you. You will be doing something good; if my answer were not what it should be, I'd learn; if it does answer you, you'll learn something.
Never mind all that KellyJay. Let’s get back to your claim that you have “never stated that everything in the bible is fact”
So then I’m asking you directly
Is everything in the bible “FACT”?
And subsequently to that ..
Is all the stuff about lakes of fire and brimstone and the eternal burning of non Christians therein, literal or metaphor?
Let hear you then!
Concerning hell, I believe what Jesus says about that in the context he says it. It is a literal place, where literal things happen to those that end up there for the length of time that Jesus specified, literally.
@kellyjay saidIs everything in the Bible, every monster in Revelation, every creature, every giant in Daniel… are all these things FACTS as in they are literal real things? Or NOT?
I answered you directly, but I will do this for you if you think I have not. You have claimed you have read my responses, but the answer you reject just tell me why it does not answer you. Quote me here, and let's break down why what I have said does not answer you. You will be doing something good; if my answer were not what it should be, I'd learn; if it does answer you, y ...[text shortened]... ral things happen to those that end up there for the length of time that Jesus specified, literally.
You keep hopping between there’s stuff which is literal and stuff which symbolic but you refuse to say which is which and importantly HOW YOU decide which is which.
Make your mind up KellyJay, you can’t have it both ways.
@divegeester saidI gave you an answer already, how was that not clear to you?
Is everything in the Bible, every monster in Revelation, every creature, every giant in Daniel… are all these things FACTS as in they are literal real things? Or NOT?
You keep hopping between there’s stuff which is literal and stuff which symbolic but you refuse to say which is which and importantly HOW YOU decide which is which.
Make your mind up KellyJay, you can’t have it both ways.
29 Apr 22
@kellyjay saidThis seems to be your go-to fall back position every time you are asked for a definitive yes or no answer.
I gave you an answer already, how was that not clear to you?
“I’ve already answered that”
“I’ve already answered that”
It’s tiresome and doesn’t show you in a good light kellyjay.
Sonship is just as bad, so is josephw/secondson. It must be something about old wineskins and their dogmatism.
@divegeester saidSome answers require more than a yes no since they can be misleading. Some questions are loaded with assumptions and if they are ignored a yes or no gives the wrong impression. You over simplify the complex and make complicated to simple.
This seems to be your go-to fall back position every time you are asked for a definitive yes or no answer.
“I’ve already answered that”
“I’ve already answered that”
It’s tiresome and doesn’t show you in a good light kellyjay.
Sonship is just as bad, so is josephw/secondson. It must be something about old wineskins and their dogmatism.
29 Apr 22
@kellyjay saidNot mine, not the two I gave you. They are both totally straightforward. But you carry on with your evasion and excuses.
Some answers require more than a yes no since they can be misleading.
You three guys are all intellectual weasels, I have very little respect for you tbh.
29 Apr 22
@ChessAtaxia
If man is subject to mistakes then how would you as being a man be able to guarantee that you wouldn't mistakes. I think you should rethink your pompous ideas.
@divegeester saidThis from the man who stated that altruism doesn't exist.
There is plenty to discuss, you’re just not very good at it. This is probably because you don’t care about anyone or anything.
29 Apr 22
@divegeester saidThen what are you doing asking me questions?
Not mine, not the two I gave you. They are both totally straightforward. But you carry on with your evasion and excuses.
You three guys are all intellectual weasels, I have very little respect for you tbh.