Originally posted by chaney3Perhaps the most prevalent theme of what Jesus taught while He walked the Earth, is the importance of His word:
Yes.
Understanding His word.
Not just understanding His word, but believing His word.
Not just believing His word, but following His word.
Not just following His word, but keeping His word.
Or if you want to look at it the other way around:
To keep His word, one must follow His word.
To follow His word, one must believe His word.
To believe His word, one must understand His word.
As you seem to have surmised, many do not believe His word. It's a real problem.
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneI do NOT follow the words of Jesus.
Perhaps the most prevalent theme of what Jesus taught while He walked the Earth, is the importance of His word:
Understanding His word.
[b]Not just understanding His word, but believing His word.
Not just believing His word, but following His word.
Not just following His word, but keeping His word.
Or if you want to look at it the other w ...[text shortened]... d His word.
As you seem to have surmised, many do not believe His word. It's a real problem.[/b]
Originally posted by chaney3Seeing as you don't believe His words, that goes without saying.
I do NOT follow the words of Jesus.
What's surprising is how few Christians I've come across who have even really read His words no less sincerely tried to understand them.
Given the importance Jesus gave His word, you'd think they'd all know them forwards and backwards and sincerely try to understand them, but that doesn't seem to be the case.
On the other hand, almost all have known the church dogma forwards and backwards.
04 Jan 17
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneThat is completely incorrect. In fact it is so incorrect and ignorant of the gospel that I doubt you are even a Christian yourself and are just trolling along.
In a nutshell Jesus was saying that everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin and that his true disciples will be freed from committing sin.
04 Jan 17
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneHow many Christians have you come across and where have you "come across" them?
What's surprising is how few Christians I've come across who have even really read His words no less sincerely tried to understand them.
How do you judge them; on what basis to you assess whether or not they have "sincerely" read Jesus words?
On what basis do you claim to be qualified to make this assessment?
Originally posted by divegeesterThat is completely incorrect.
That is completely incorrect. In fact it is so incorrect and ignorant of the gospel that I doubt you are even a Christian yourself and are just trolling along.
What in your mind IS "completely correct"?
In fact it is so incorrect and ignorant of the gospel that I doubt you are even a Christian yourself and are just trolling along.
THE gospel are the words that Jesus spoke while He walked the Earth.
But it would seem that you have something else in mind. What in your mind is "the gospel"? Would it be the dogma that you've been taught? I imagine that you know the dogma forwards and backwards.
04 Jan 17
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneThe gospel does not teach that Christians will never sin. You are no Christian, you are a troll.
[b]That is completely incorrect.
What in your mind IS "completely correct"?
In fact it is so incorrect and ignorant of the gospel that I doubt you are even a Christian yourself and are just trolling along.
THE gospel are the words that Jesus spoke while He walked the Earth.
But it would seem that you have something else in mind. Wh ...[text shortened]... be the dogma that you've been taught? I imagine that you know the dogma forwards and backwards.[/b]
04 Jan 17
Originally posted by ThinkOfOneIs that based on your misunderstanding of Romans 8:2, or did you literally get it from a nutshell?
In a nutshell Jesus was saying that everyone who commits sin is the slave of sin and that his true disciples will be freed from committing sin.
Originally posted by divegeesterI seriously do not think he is being a troll. I do find your response interesting though. It seems to have upset you. So if he is trolling, its working very well.
The gospel does not teach that Christians will never sin. You are no Christian, you are a troll.
Why don't you ask him to explain, and you explain your version?
Originally posted by twhiteheadI agree.
I seriously do not think he is being a troll. I do find your response interesting though. It seems to have upset you. So if he is trolling, its working very well.
Why don't you ask him to explain, and you explain your version?
I do not think that ThinkOfOne is a troll, and also, he knows the Bible well.
The dilemma with him is his opinion that humans are capable of living a sin free life, in which I disagree.
04 Jan 17
Originally posted by divegeesterJesus was speaking the will of God, but the fact remains that there are many verses and passages where Jesus speaks of understanding, believing, following and / or keeping His word.
Jesus spoke what the father told him, not what his own words.
Here's but one example:
John 8
51“Truly, truly, I say to you, if anyone keeps My word he will never see death.”
You can continue to pretend that this isn't the case, but Jesus said what He said. How is it that you don't know that?