23 Feb 10
Originally posted by Rajk999actually i have many great conversations on spiritual matters with atheists and theists alike. we dont seem to have with you, simply because we must spend our time refuting your lies. I have great faith in the forum members that they are able to see you for what you are, a slanderer and a liar.
Most people here used to be interested in what the JW have to say. I will give you 3 guesses why they are no longer interested.... 🙂
23 Feb 10
I agree that we have had interesting discussions (I've been on some)(I perceive that you are an intelligent individual RC) However my biggest beef that I have with you and G75 is how you choose to lump all Christendom into a basket. That is not fair at all.
My second problem is the elitist mentality both of you guys put off at times about your JW stuff.
PS have to go to work today 🙂 or 🙁
Manny
23 Feb 10
Originally posted by menace71It's not ment to come accross that way at all as humility is a trait that we are all to cultivate. But we are imperfect and with a couple members here that seem to have nothing to do in life but attack us and consistantly lie about the Watchtower Society, it is easy to get upset and react in a way that isn't right. Rajj seems to thrive in life doing this. So it is not ment to attack anyone and I have never ment to do that....
I agree that we have had interesting discussions (I've been on some)(I perceive that you are an intelligent individual RC) However my biggest beef that I have with you and G75 is how you choose to lump all Christendom into a basket. That is not fair at all.
My second problem is the elitist mentality both of you guys put off at times about your JW stuff.
PS have to go to work today 🙂 or 🙁
Manny
23 Feb 10
Originally posted by menace71its nothing to do with Galvo, he is very reasonable and mild mannered, suffers fools where i would have been gone two days before and is very patient. I on the other hand am quick tempered and can be quite antagonistic. I dont like it, nor do i offer any excuses, i need to change, for sure.
I agree that we have had interesting discussions (I've been on some)(I perceive that you are an intelligent individual RC) However my biggest beef that I have with you and G75 is how you choose to lump all Christendom into a basket. That is not fair at all.
My second problem is the elitist mentality both of you guys put off at times about your JW stuff.
PS have to go to work today 🙂 or 🙁
Manny
26 Feb 10
Originally posted by menace71yes but you are talking of Christ coming to the earth not leaving.
Yeah I'm confused about it. Example when G75 & I were discussing the ascension G75 made allusion to Christ going up into heaven and not being flesh? So yes it is a serious question.
Manny
27 Feb 10
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Originally posted by menace71Do JW's believe that Christ came to the earth in the flesh? That He was flesh?
When He Christ left the earth He was ?? Flesh or spirit ??
Manny
here you are asking, do we believe that Jesus CAME to the earth in the flesh. I found it quite incredible that a people (Jehovahs Witnesses) who profess that he came, was scourged, was impaled, gave up his life as a propitiatory sacrifice, that celebrates with wine and unleavened bread, signifying the sin atoning properties of his flesh and blood, should deny that he CAME to the earth in Flesh, dont you.
(1 Timothy 3:16) ‘He was made manifest in flesh, was declared righteous in spirit, appeared to angels, was preached about among nations, was believed upon in the world, was received up in glory.’
As for leaving in flesh, well, consider this,
(1 Corinthians 15:50) However, this I say, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s kingdom. . .
(1 Corinthians 15:45-47) . . .: “The first man Adam became a living soul.” The last Adam became a life-giving spirit. Nevertheless, the first is, not that which is spiritual, but that which is physical, afterward that which is spiritual. The first man is out of the earth and made of dust; the second man is out of heaven. . .
28 Feb 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieOk fair enough. I guess where We would come into conflict is on when he left the earth. I really was un-clear on what JW's believed.
Do JW's believe that Christ came to the earth in the flesh? That He was flesh?
here you are asking, do we believe that Jesus CAME to the earth in the flesh. I found it quite incredible that a people (Jehovahs Witnesses) who profess that he came, was scourged, was impaled, gave up his life as a propitiatory sacrifice, that celebrates with wine an ...[text shortened]... tual. The first man is out of the earth and made of dust; the second man is out of heaven. . .
Manny