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Originally posted by divegeester
I care robbie. As a long time member and contributor to this forum I have a right of recourse if false witness is said against me. Furthermore I find your reveling in the joy you found from saying those things to me to be quite interesting and a little disturbing if I'm honest. I wonder what your Kingdom Hall leader would think if they could see you posts to me. Maybe I could print them off and post them.
boing boing. . . . . . . . . .over da moon. Frolic frolic through the daises caring not a jot. Merrily we roll along, roll along, roll along, life is but a dream.😵

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Originally posted by divegeester
does this mean that those who are ignorant of their sin are not accountable for it?
"(to be continued)": Your question will be addressed following discussion of these seven sins listed in Proverbs 6:16-19.
In the meanwhile applying 1 John 1:9 will insure the filling of the Holy Spirit and glorifying God.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
My motivation for this thread is simply that the Doctrine of Sin [Hamartiology] has seldom if ever been the thread topic
in this spirituality forum; purpose is to re-acquaint ourselves with various aspects of sin in God's eyes.
Thread 161949

4 months ago you started the same thread. I just notice that it's always death and sin and hell and death and sin and hell.

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
[b]Sin

If the noun "sin" is within your vocabulary, please comment on its categories [if any] and meaning to you. Thanks.[/b]
'Sin' only really comes into my vocab (as an atheist) in regards to sport; or more precisely in the term 'sin bin.' (Rugby).

'The sin-bin is the bench where all players who have committed a yellow card offence sit out of the game for 10 minutes. If the referee believes a player has committed a serious foul or shown indiscipline.'

'Sin' therefore, in this context, is a lack of control and breaking of the agreed rules of the game. It is however quickly forgiven and the player is soon back on his feet without the threat of eternal damnation.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
boing boing. . . . . . . . . .over da moon. Frolic frolic through the daises caring not a jot. Merrily we roll along, roll along, roll along, life is but a dream.😵
I know you don't care, it doesn't worry me that you don't care. I just enjoy finding opportunities for you to bring yourself and therefore your religious cult into dispute.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
There as far as I am aware two modes of sin, one is wilful and the other is involuntary, the result of being imperfect. Sin therefore has moral consequences. Those who wilfully practice sin are deemed to be morally reprehensible as being fully cognizant of the fact that their course of action stands condemned and seek to justify it in some way. Th ...[text shortened]... hold anyone accountable and yet within each of us there is a guiding compass of the conscience.
Originally posted by robbie carrobie
"There as far as I am aware two modes of sin, one is wilful and the other is involuntary, the result of being imperfect..."

Yes, however, I'd use the words: known and unknown sins; our free will makes the decision to commit all of our "mental attitude, verbal and overt sins" whether or not we're aware of violating God's Character and Righteous Standards at the time.

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
'Sin' only really comes into my vocab (as an atheist) in regards to sport; or more precisely in the term 'sin bin.' (Rugby).

'The sin-bin is the bench where all players who have committed a yellow card offence sit out of the game for 10 minutes. If the referee believes a player has committed a serious foul or shown indiscipline.'

'Sin' therefore, ...[text shortened]... er quickly forgiven and the player is soon back on his feet without the threat of eternal damnation.
'Sin' therefore, in this context, is a lack of control and breaking of the agreed rules of the game..."
Ghost of a Duke, would you consider the possibility that God also has "rules of the game"?

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Originally posted by divegeester
Thread 161949

4 months ago you started the same thread. I just notice that it's always death and sin and hell and death and sin and hell.
Thanks for the archived recovery of a seventeen page thread I'd completely forgotten; this 2015 thread resumes the discussion.

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Originally posted by divegeester
I know you don't care, it doesn't worry me that you don't care. I just enjoy finding opportunities for you to bring yourself and therefore your religious cult into dispute.
Cheer up dweebster its not so bad.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Cheer up dweebster its not so bad.
I'm delighted with outcomes of our exchanges especially the recent ones; you are a fantastic ambassador for my cause. 🙂

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How many types of sin are there?

- Original sin
- Conscious or willful sin
- Unconscious sin (robbie, you didn't reply to my question - are we accountable for the sin we are unaware of?)

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Originally posted by divegeester
I'm delighted with outcomes of our exchanges especially the recent ones; you are a fantastic ambassador for my cause. 🙂
Always happy to help although I doubt anyone takes your forum antics seriously, I certainly don't. They know when it comes down to it, we are prepared to walk the walk. Seeing that you deem yourself as one of the forums big boys this is for you!

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Originally posted by Grampy Bobby
'Sin' therefore, in this context, is a lack of control and breaking of the agreed rules of the game..."
Ghost of a Duke, would you consider the possibility that God also has "rules of the game"?
I chose my words carefully with the sport analogy, as there is indeed a religious sin parallel (rules of the game, indiscipline, lack of control).

To ask an atheist though if a God, who by his very nature he doesn't believe in, has 'rules of the game,' is rather a strange question. I would first have to consider the possibility that God actually exists, before i could consider he has any rules and that we as human beings have a moral obligation to obey those rules.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Always happy to help although I doubt anyone takes your forum antics seriously, I certainly don't. They know when it comes down to it, we are prepared to walk the walk. Seeing that you deem yourself as one of the forums big boys this is for you!

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I don' think anything of myself; I'm talking about your sometimes quite unbelievable behaviour here.

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Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
I chose my words carefully with the sport analogy, as there is indeed a religious sin parallel (rules of the game, indiscipline, lack of control).

To ask an atheist though if a God, who by his very nature he doesn't believe in, has 'rules of the game,' is rather a strange question. I would first have to consider the possibility that God actually exis ...[text shortened]... d consider he has any rules and that we as human beings have a moral obligation to obey those rules.
Originally posted by Ghost of a Duke
"I would first have to consider the possibility that God actually exists, before i could consider he has any rules and that we as human beings have a moral obligation to obey those rules."

Well reasoned and logical reply; thank you. If God and His Righteous Standards do not exist within the known universe, then what ultimate authoritative righteous standard has there ever been preserving and perpetuating the human race on planet earth?

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