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Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
I believe the oldest trick in the book is deflecting with an emoticon.
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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Try to read with your eyes open:

Uniformatarianism is an unprovable assumption that cannot be verified using the scientific method no matter how you try to spin it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformitarianism

If you cannot prove it it is a matter of faith.
How would non-uniform in time natural laws lead to fossils equal in age being identified as vastly different in age?

I think the statement that variations in natural law cannot be measured is incorrect. Such variations can and would leave empirical signatures. For example, physicists have looked into the question of whether the proton-to-electron mass ratio varies over time.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
We gotta have your standards?
lol No. Do you believe we should not have standards?

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Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
How would non-uniform in time natural laws lead to fossils equal in age being identified as vastly different in age?

I think the statement that variations in natural law cannot be measured is incorrect. Such variations can and would leave empirical signatures. For example, physicists have looked into the question of whether the proton-to-electron mass ratio varies over time.
There is evidence to suggest fossils were formed by means of rapid burial, which undermines uniformitarianism.

https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/how-are-fossils-formed/do-fossils-show-signs-of-rapid-burial/

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
There is evidence to suggest fossils were formed by means of rapid burial, which undermines uniformitarianism.

https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/how-are-fossils-formed/do-fossils-show-signs-of-rapid-burial/
Edit: https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/how-are-fossils-formed/do-fossils-show-signs-of-rapid-burial/


Written by His Majesty Dr. John David Morris, president of the Institute for Creation Research, son of the venerable Henry Madison Morris, one of the founders of the Creation Research Society and the Institute for Creation Research (ICR).
In the past, ICR promoted countless projects in full accordance with the vast majority of the international scientific community, projecting the genuine Young Earth creationist worldview, an objectively and absolutely true Dogma based on Scripture, endorsed by countless respectful scientists whose disciple is the scientific field of Objectively & Absolutely True Physics.
The epitome of them all took place in 1985, when the ICR demonstrated brilliantly the true meaning of Agape (the atheist cannot understand agape because they conflate it with eros): It helped the Turkish ministry of Education to introduce Islamic creationism in Turkish high schools.
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Originally posted by @dj2becker
Uniformatarianism is an unprovable postulate that cannot be verified using the scientific method no matter how you try to spin it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniformitarianism
Maybe.
But I asked you.
Do you get out of bed in the morning wondering
what the Laws of Nature will be like today?


and you failed to answer.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
There is evidence to suggest fossils were formed by means of rapid burial, which undermines uniformitarianism.

https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/how-are-fossils-formed/do-fossils-show-signs-of-rapid-burial/
Edit: There is evidence to suggest fossils were formed by means of rapid burial, which undermines uniformitarianism.

If you try so hard with this kind of “papers” in order to make yours a science degree dj2becker, for one, kindly please check what exactly happened to the ICR as regards its right to issue science degrees.
For two, Dr. J. D. Morris is out of his league. His “article” is a joke and biostratigraphy proves him wrong on the spot. Just a note though: Geologists of our era do not apply Lyell’s uniformitarianism, as Mr. Morris believes. They apply geological actualism😵

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
If you cannot prove it it is a matter of faith.
Do you think that there are zero blue-haired one-legged
virgins in orbit around Jupiter who want to have sex with you?

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Originally posted by @apathist
lol No. Do you believe we should [b]not have standards?[/b]
Not at all, but I do believe there should be one set not two, so when things like dismissing
God because it is just claimed that He is the God of the gaps, it cannot than be done with
time instead of God. It should not be said, oh with time these things will work themselves
out when we see no way it could happen.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
[b]Not at all, but I do believe there should be one set not two, so when things like dismissing God because it is just claimed that He is the God of the gaps, it cannot than be done with time instead of God. It should not be said, oh with time these things will work themselves out when we see no way it could happen.
You believe women and children an i dunno asians should have the same set that you do?

Your last sentence, no one but you claims that. I understand that you have an issue with the endless time thing but you aren't expressing it very well.

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Originally posted by @apathist
You believe women and children an i dunno asians should have the same set that you do?

Your last sentence, no one but you claims that. I understand that you have an issue with the endless time thing but you aren't expressing it very well.
Or you are not following along well.

I have said one of the complaints about God is that some of us put Him in the gaps where we don't have answers. I have said some do the same thing with time suggesting it solves issues without any real explanation.

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Originally posted by @kellyjay
I have said some do the same thing with time suggesting it solves issues without any real explanation.
That only means you don't comprehend time and probability, and make the argument from incredulity.

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Originally posted by @dj2becker
There is evidence to suggest fossils were formed by means of rapid burial, which undermines uniformitarianism.

https://answersingenesis.org/fossils/how-are-fossils-formed/do-fossils-show-signs-of-rapid-burial/
There is evidence to suggest a queen with three dragons will come and conquer all our lands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire

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Originally posted by @kazetnagorra
There is evidence to suggest a queen with three dragons will come and conquer all our lands.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Song_of_Ice_and_Fire
What does that have to do with the evidence that I presented? Are you by any chance hoping that the refutation of your evidence refutes mine?

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Originally posted by @wolfgang59
Maybe.
But I asked you.
Do you get out of bed in the morning wondering
what the Laws of Nature will be like today?


and you failed to answer.
No I just wonder how you can ignore evidence that completely undermines your theory.

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