That is not RIGHT!

@kellyjay said
According to you

@fmf said
I didn't create the English language, you silly billy.

In order to answer (or attempt to answer) the questions in the OP, one would first need to define what words like “right” (or, e.g., righteous or just) mean – such that one could ask whether the actions of Gloria or Gregor or God (or anybody else) meet the proposed criteria. Otherwise, one can claim that whatever Gloria does is “right” – just because Gloria does it (or commands it).

I suspect there would be a lot of argument over various definitions – but at least there would be some (putative) logical foundations proffered. For example, claims of restorative versus retributive justice – and what might seem thereby “right” in any given case.

@kellyjay said
You just think that where your experience stops so does everyone else’s!

@vistesd2 said
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@kellyjay said
Righteousness, if it has shades of grey, something that is convoluted is it truly right, or nothing more than a mist without substance.

@fmf said
I believe I understand what the actual nature of your faith is better than you do. I understand the psychological grip that your religious faith has on you, how it distorts your perception of it and how it makes you almost completely incapable of discussing it coherently.

@fmf said
If your moral compass tells you that there are no "shades of grey" when it comes to "righteousness", then so be it. Use your compass to help you navigate the vicissitudes and dilemmas of life. I suggest you draw whatever succour and reinforcement you can from your personal opinions about yourself and the universe.

@kellyjay said
Such is your opinion!

@kellyjay said
So you say, so you believe, but that is but your opinion only.

@kellyjay said
Because what was written about Christ is historical means opinions either line up with the truth or not, something that occurred can be denied but reality is more important than what our opinions are about it.

@fmf said
Your moral compass is a psychological mechanism for generating personal opinions and decisions about the morality of others' actions and the moral reasoning of your own actions ~ i.e. it's your conscience.

The unique-to-you workings of your moral compass are formed and directed by a synthesis of nature and nurture. All your religious concepts and prohibitions and imperatives are part of "nurture": you have absorbed them from your human environment.

@fmf said
If you believe that your speculative deductions about the nature of the universe "line up with the truth", then so be it.

As I've said before, if you feel that your personal opinions/deductions - your immortality, my "damnation" etc. - are the "only logical narrative that makes sense", then I hope it helps you live your life and come to terms with the inevitability of death.

@kellyjay said
So you say as you talk about others.

@kellyjay said
A historical Jesus removes from us the ability to reject it and maintain the same course as those who embrace Him.