The Agenda

@rajk999 said
I never dismissed belief. I said that belief has a special meaning that is not just a profession of faith with the mouth.

"Nobody is required to know or believe it".

Your words from earlier post.

@kellyjay said
Can an Atheist at death be saved due to their works?

Rajk says yes.
But clearly, the "belief" aspect is missing from the good works, along with the pesky problem of forgiveness of sin.
How can an atheist request forgiveness from an entity in which he doesn't "believe" exists?

@chaney3 said
Rajk says yes.
But clearly, the "belief" aspect is missing from the good works, along with the pesky problem of forgiveness of sin.
How can an atheist request forgiveness from an entity in which he doesn't "believe" exists?

God will not force anyone to enter into His Kingdom, if you don't want Him, He will grant that. As Jesus came and went all in for us, laying down His life for us so we could be redeemed from our sin, God calls us to be all in for Him. We cannot be double minded, one foot in God's Kingdom, one foot out. True repentance and grace go hand in hand! He did the work to redeem us, we reap the benefits of His grace and mercy, and what He gives us we are to share.

@kellyjay said
Look at what you started! 🙁 LOL

I know, right?!

Finishing sentences is overrated.

@chaney3 said
"Nobody is required to know or believe it".

Your words from earlier post.

What is the 'it'.

@kellyjay said
Can an Atheist at death be saved due to their works?

Do you think Jesus cannot welcome whoever he chooses into the Kingdom of God? Is Jesus bound by your interpretation of the bible? Paul said a demonstration of charity and brotherly love is a more excellent way than faith. Who enters the Kingdom of God is up to God and Jesus Christ... not your church.

@rajk999 said
Do you think Jesus cannot welcome whoever he chooses into the Kingdom of God? Is Jesus bound by your interpretation of the bible? Paul said a demonstration of charity and brotherly love is a more excellent way than faith. Who enters the Kingdom of God is up to God and Jesus Christ... not your church.

It is a simple question, talking around it doesn't answer the question. Can you answer it or are you going act like you gave an answer and hide the fact you didn't? You don't need my church's answer, the Word of God is enough, and that is all that is required.

You can lie about my pushing my church doctrine again, and it is very clear you are lying when you talk about it, because you don't know what church I go to, so you cannot know its doctrine. You evil imagination again replaces reality as you talk about other people!

@rajk999 said
What is the 'it'.

It was your post, your words.
YOU need to specify what "it" is.

@kellyjay said
It is a simple question, talking around it doesn't answer the question. Can you answer it or are you going act like you gave an answer and hide the fact you didn't? You don't need my church's answer, the Word of God is enough, and that is all that is required.

You can lie about my pushing my church doctrine again, and it is very clear you are lying when you talk about it ...[text shortened]... annot know its doctrine. You evil imagination again replaces reality as you talk about other people!

I will have to leave you in your ignorance.

@kellyjay said
Can you answer it or are you going act like you gave an answer and hide the fact you didn't?

Oh the irony.

@fmf said
Oh the irony.

Ha, my thought exactly when I read it.

@kellyjay said
Can an Atheist at death be saved due to their works?

Would it be an example of the "free gift" of "grace" and undeserved "mercy" if he or she was "saved"? And isn't it up to Jesus? And can't He do whatever He wants? And isn't it presumably what "judgement" is about?

@fmf said
Would it be an example of the "free gift" of "grace" and undeserved "mercy" if he or she was "saved"? And isn't it up to Jesus? And can't He do whatever He wants? And isn't it presumably what "judgement" is about?

"Belief" seems to be required by Jesus, as it states in John 3:16, and the verses provided by KellyJay on page 7.

@kellyjay said
Can an Atheist at death be saved due to their works?

Can a Christian at death be "saved" if their worship and faith are not substantiated by "works"?

@chaney3 said
"Belief" seems to be required by Jesus, as it states in John 3:16, and the verses provided by KellyJay on page 7.

If you can't be bothered to answer the questions you are supposedly 'responding' to, don't use the "Quote" function.