08 Aug 19
@rajk999 saidIt is a warning. Do not try to play the LAw. Jc's words this time around will be kept secret til the very last.
Jesus Christ has assured certain people of their salvation. I offer no interpretation or analysis, just a couple quotes, and there are dozens more like them :
And being made perfect, he [Jesus Christ] became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him; (Hebrews 5:9 KJV)
[b]Q : Who gets eternal salvation from Christ ?
A : Those who OBEY Christ[/ ...[text shortened]... s no hope for you. So did John and Jude.
Beware of the wolves that teach the doctrines of Satan.
Identify those who cannot understand the WOR d . Identify and tell the truth. Your presence is all that is required
08 Aug 19
@secondson saidQuaff... You most certainly be required to continue to use your free will to make decisions based on charity, instruction or self improvement.
You are mistaken sir. It is biblical doctrine that states you 'can't' do good works to earn salvation.
It is biblical doctrine that says you cannot earn salvation.
And simple logic. It's like saying one can make muddy water pure by pouring muddy water into it.
The gospel is most simple. Jesus did the work. We, as sinners, receive eternal life by faith in the ...[text shortened]... works, who has no need of anything from us, for salvation, is religion.
Could it be any clearer?
08 Aug 19
@sonship saidSort your words. Assessments are not judgements
It is crystal clear that ungodly living may prevent a Christian from inheriting the kingdom of God. See three important passages -
" etc. etc. ... has no inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God" ( Eph. 5:5)
" etc. etc. ... not the rapacious will inherit the kingdom of God" ( 2 Cor. 6:9,10)
" etc. etc. ... shall not inherit the kingdom of God" (Gal. 5:19 ...[text shortened]... Christian will give Christ the King opportunity to reveal that [b]mercy TRIUMPHS over judgment.
10 Aug 19
@sonship saidWe shouldn't judge others. Yet we can evaluate
@karoly-aczel
Sort your words. Assessments are not judgements
Would you please explain to me what you mean?
10 Aug 19
@sonship saidMy salvation? No, mine is assured. Only I can stuff it up
karoly, still sorting yours?
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10 Aug 19
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We shouldn't judge others. Yet we can evaluate
Judging others is unavoidable.
What Jesus said was that with the judgment you judge others YOU shall be judged. Mostly, I take that to mean the kingdom people should judge or evaluate with some mercy or at least with the realization that we ourselves do the same things. Or we have other problems.
"Judge not that you be not judged."
Tend to the beam in our own eye before we attempt to remove the speck from the other's eye. That's the spirit of that warning.
But judging others in itself?
We all do it all the time.
11 Aug 19
@sonship saidAnd because we do it all the time we remain in darkness
@karoly-aczel
We shouldn't judge others. Yet we can evaluate
Judging others is unavoidable.
What Jesus said was that with the judgment you judge others YOU shall be judged. Mostly, I take that to mean the kingdom people should judge or evaluate with some mercy or at least with the realization that we ourselves do the same things. Or we have other ...[text shortened]... That's the spirit of that warning.
But judging others in itself?
We all do it all the time.