06 Nov 11
Originally posted by Ullrsorry, i missed this, allow me to answer now.
Why would you base your understanding of the god of Israel on anything other than the scripture/mythology of the tribe of Israel? This would be akin to a jew claiming that the Allfather Odin is a teetoler.
for the simple reason you don't base your understanding of physics only on the works of isaac newton, i do not base my understanding of god only on the bible.
i understand that should the part about god being a being of love be true, some parts of the bible must be false, specifically the ones about genocide and god proding job with pain and suffering to prove to someone he doesn't even like that job is a good guy.
06 Nov 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelThe word 'homosexuality' is not in the Bible. The concept and the act of what we call homosexuality is in the Bible and it is condemed in rather strong language. God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah becuase the residents engaged in acts of homosexuality.
So is there or is there not anything about homosexuality in the bible? after 200+ posts and other threads on this issue, there still seems to be no concensus to a very simple question.
06 Nov 11
Originally posted by Rajk999sure, sure. god decided that two people have no right to be in love with each other if both have p3nises. there are wars, famine, diseases, murders, rapes, thefts, greed, and so on but god decided that two people that cherish and respect one another should be outlawed.
You dont know better. The Bible and God is against homosexuality.
on the bible part, i will agree. the bible is very much against homosexuality. doesn't have anything against slavery though, or genocide, or rape, or killing little girls if they fail to prove they are virgins on their wedding night. however, when two dudes doink each other, the bible screams halt!
06 Nov 11
Originally posted by ZahlanziYes and Yes.
sure, sure. god decided that two people have no right to be in love with each other if both have p3nises. there are wars, famine, diseases, murders, rapes, thefts, greed, and so on but god decided that two people that cherish and respect one another should be outlawed.
on the bible part, i will agree. the bible is very much against homosexualit ...[text shortened]... rgins on their wedding night. however, when two dudes doink each other, the bible screams halt!
Are you dealing with facts or with your emotion?
06 Nov 11
Originally posted by Rajk999lovely story. simply lovely. two cities get destroyed, including the children. where there no good people there? lot was there, so apart from him no other fairly good guy was there?
The word 'homosexuality' is not in the Bible. The concept and the act of what we call homosexuality is in the Bible and it is condemed in rather strong language. God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah becuase the residents engaged in acts of homosexuality.
on a side note, nicely done on lot's part offering his daughters to be gang raped by the rape mob. very christian of him. oh wait, he wasn't a christian. he was from the time god had no son to calm him down so he was vengeful and nasty.
06 Nov 11
Originally posted by karoly aczelThanks for getting us to a better place.
So is there or is there not anything about homosexuality in the bible? after 200+ posts and other threads on this issue, there still seems to be no concensus to a very simple question.
The bible in no uncertain terms (thanks Rajk999) condemns the act of homosexual sex, but does not condemn a person for simply being or even claiming to be, a homosexual.
And if you look at it in simple black and white, this goes the same for so many other things we human beings do that is condemned, while the urge to do so is fairly natural and not condemned.
If a man finds himself alone with another man's wife, and one thing leads to another and both feel like engaging in some affection or more. Should they do it? Does the bible condemn them for the circumstances that lead up to the decision, or does the bible condemn the act itself?
Now adultery is an interesting subject because even fantasizing about an adulterous relationship is a sin according to Christ. And that I find interesting.
06 Nov 11
Originally posted by ZahlanziOk fine .. unfortunately none of that makes homosexuality acceptable. It is still wrong.
lovely story. simply lovely. two cities get destroyed, including the children. where there no good people there? lot was there, so apart from him no other fairly good guy was there?
on a side note, nicely done on lot's part offering his daughters to be gang raped by the rape mob. very christian of him. oh wait, he wasn't a christian. he was from the time god had no son to calm him down so he was vengeful and nasty.
06 Nov 11
Originally posted by Rajk999so you are admitting that JC didn't mention anything about homosexuality but that the bible writers came up with that charming story of Sodom and Gomorrah.
The word 'homosexuality' is not in the Bible. The concept and the act of what we call homosexuality is in the Bible and it is condemed in rather strong language. God destroyed the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah becuase the residents engaged in acts of homosexuality.
Funny how some christians can "cringe" or "get disgusted" at what 2 people do behind closed doors, their imaginations clearly running away with them, but dont so much as bat an eyelid when certain atrocities are cited from the bible. And whats more, try to justify those atrocities on the grounds that "God did it".
Incredible!
06 Nov 11
Originally posted by ZahlanziI am anti-gay to the same extent that God is anti-gay ..YES .
what facts? that you're anti-gay? it was obvious, don't worry.
I also posted a couple pages earlier that there are many abominations in the Bible which God hates and Christians are wrong to focus on homosexuality only and ignore the rest. I personally wont consider a gay man any worse a sinner than a habitual liar or a dangerous gossiping woman.