The Garden of Eden

Originally posted by galveston75
No it was created by God in 6 of his days. That is literal and not al allegory.

So it depends ~ for you personally ~ on what the meaning of the words "his days" is? Isn't that straying awfully close to the "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is" kind of thing?

Originally posted by FMF
So it depends ~ for you personally ~ on what the meaning of the words "his days" is? Isn't that straying awfully close to the "It depends on what the meaning of the word 'is' is" kind of thing?

No its demonstrable that a creative day is unspecified in length, after all Paul spoke of still being in 'Gods rest day', thousands of years later. Have you any reason to offer on why we should assign them any other value?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Then adiós amigos, vamos munchachos, the broad road awaits for you. Jesus, Peter and Paul all taught a literal interpretation of these alleged allegories.

So I will pose the same question to you. In your door to door 'ministry', over the last twenty years or so, have you ever suspected you might have "lost" the interest a potential sympathizer or convert to a Christian life when you started insisting that allegories in the Bible are "literally true"?

Originally posted by FMF
So I will pose the same question to you. In your door to door 'ministry', over the last twenty years or so, have you ever suspected you might have "lost" the interest a potential sympathizer or convert to a Christian life when you started insisting that allegories in the Bible are "literally true"?

No not once. Not a single instance. People are either interested or not interested, this has been my experience. If people have issues then its up to them to resolve them, we have NO issues with scripture.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No its demonstrable that a creative day is unspecified in length, after all Paul spoke of still being in 'Gods rest day', thousands of years later. Have you any reason to offer on why we should assign them any other value?

Why use the word "day" in a book intended for and read by people for whom the word "day" has a specific meaning? Surely this reference to "days" is a simple allegory that in fact is referring to natural processes that took eons of time.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No not once. Not a single instance. People are either interested or not interested, this has been my experience.

Have you encountered people who become not interested because of the 'it's "literally" true' thing your doctrine insists on?

Originally posted by FMF
Why use the word "day" in a book intended for and read by people for whom the word "day" has a specific meaning? Surely this reference to "days" is a simple allegory that in fact is referring to natural processes that took eons of time.

why not, its perfectly reasonable and acceptable to describe a period of time and its meaning is not as narrow as you would like us to believe, after all we have in English the term, 'in my fathers day', referring to an unspecified epoch in time, why don't you object to that being an appropriate term? Is, 'in my fathers day', also a reference to an allegory?

Originally posted by FMF
Have you encountered people who become not interested because of the 'it's "literally" true' thing your doctrine insists on?

No, never, not once. People are interested or not interested before i say a single word.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
why not, its perfectly reasonable and acceptable to describe a period of time and its meaning is not as narrow as you would like us to believe, after all we have in English the term, 'in my fathers day, referring to an unspecified epoch in time, why don't you object to that being an appropriate term?

Because it's an idiom. How could such an important tenet of your faith come down to wordplay?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
No, never, not once. People are interested or not interested before i say a single word.

It was something I discussed with JW's several times in Japan, Australia and the UK.

Originally posted by FMF
Because it's an idiom. How could such an important tenet of your faith come down to wordplay?

Its not, i have no issues with it. Is 'in my fathers day', also a reference to an allegorical event?

Originally posted by FMF
It was something I discussed with JW's several times in Japan, Australia and the UK.

Poor witnesses, they were probable being kind to a lost spangled drugged balloonist.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
we have in English the term, 'in my fathers day', referring to an unspecified epoch in time, why don't you object to that being an appropriate term? Is, 'in my fathers day', also a reference to an allegory?

The "day" in 'in my fathers day' is an uncountable noun.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Its not, i have no issues with it. Is 'in my fathers day', also a reference to an allegorical event?

I have already answered this.

Originally posted by FMF
The "day" in 'in my fathers day' is an uncountable noun.

Is it a reference to an allegorical event, third time asking.