Spirituality
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03 Sep 14
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Originally posted by galveston75I am fifty years old.
How old are you? You seem to have a rather childish way of understanding what is being said? Did I say there wasa scriptutre with that exact wording? No I didn't did I? No.
Maybe re read it over and over a few more times....
I asked you: Do you endorse robbie's explicit claim that the use of cigarettes "is forbidden in scripture"?
You answered 'Yes'.
I pointed out that ~ because of what you said on page 80 ~ that you were contradicting yourself.
And your follow up 'debating point' is to call me "childish" rather than explain your own contradiction.
One would be forgiven for thinking we are at ground zero of your modus operandi here. 🙂
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Originally posted by galveston75I found time to skim through your 3 pages of copy paste dump this morning and see that your self certified opinion comes (as expected) not from you own study and scripture reference but from regurgitating JW self certified opinion.
Location of Eden.
The original site of the garden of Eden is conjectural. The principal means of identifying its geographic location is the Bible’s description of the river “issuing out of Eden,” which thereafter divided into four “heads,” producing the rivers named as the Euphrates, Hiddekel, Pishon, and Gihon. (Ge 2:10-14) The Euphrates (Heb., Pera ...[text shortened]... n the distribution of the holy contributions among the priestly divisions.—2Ch 29:12; 31:14, 15.
Perhaps you think that dumping three posts of mostly irrelevant text in order to answer my question somehow lends more credibly to the JW speculation, but at least you had the decency to highlight the one actual piece of relevant text with your trademark and slightly comical use of multiple parenthesis.
I find it interesting that it took you days and days of obfuscation before you finally decided to admit that your bizarre assertion that tree of life was destroyed (I.e. The tree of life is dead) with garden of Eden was not you original thinking but simply this regurgitated opinion from someone else in your organisation.
It is also interesting that in this thread I asked robbie carrobie if he agreed with you and he refused to affirm that he did, stating that he was "only interested in what was written in scripture".
Robbie feels your regurgitated assertion is not supported by scripture. Is therefore claim about the tree of life something that all JWs are not aligned on?
03 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75room full of mirrors man! hes a room full of mirrors.
How old are you? You seem to have a rather childish way of understanding what is being said? Did I say there wasa scriptutre with that exact wording? No I didn't did I? No.
Maybe re read it over and over a few more times....
03 Sep 14
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Originally posted by divegeesterI know you don't agree and can "only" respond as you usually do.
I found time to skim through your 3 pages of copy paste dump this morning and see that your self certified opinion comes (as expected) not from you own study and scripture reference but from regurgitating JW self certified opinion.
Perhaps you think that dumping three posts of mostly irrelevant text in order to answer my question somehow lends more c ...[text shortened]... scripture. Is therefore claim about the tree of life something that all JWs are not aligned on?
God does not let you see or understand even the easy, simply truths in the bible and common sense issues like the silly confusion you have on what the "dirt" in the Garden of Eden consisted of.
You have "no desire" to see what the Bible actually says but only feed off of your own desires and condemn all that don't agree with them.
You also really love to attack and condemn the JW's which shows how much we must prick your conscience and expose your short comings with spiritual issues.
So...... pretty much a waste of time to discuss anything with you, isn't it?
Yep!
Originally posted by galveston75My responses are clear and to the point; I question you on your beliefs because you contradict yourself, each other and are sometimes dishonest in how you represent yourself. In my opinion.
I know you don't agree and can "only" respond as you usually do.
God does not let you see or understand even the easy, simply truths in the bible and common sense issues like the silly confusion you have on what the "dirt" in the Garden of Eden consisted of.
You have "no desire" to see what the Bible actually says but only feed off of your own desi ...[text shortened]... ues.
So...... pretty much a waste of time to discuss anything with you, isn't it?
Yep!
The word "dirt" was introduced by lemon lime, not me. Once again you have your facts wrong. My interest in the garden of Eden and the soil in it (as I've explained many times in this thread) is a precursor to the discussion about the tree of life and if it being real must have had roots feeding on decaying matterin the post sin era. It also begs the question "what happened to it". I think these are interesting topics.
You base your accusation "you have no desire to see what the bible says" on the outcome that I don't agree with you. This is irrational and incorrect. However I find it quite amusing that you use this phrase against me in a debate about your claim that the tree of life is destroyed, which is NOT what the bible says. Can you see why this is amusing?
I repeatedly attack the Jehovah's Witness organisation mostly because I find it to be a pernicious cult full of dangerous doctrinal errors and nasty social malpractices. That you and robbie flag-me-down with your pompous righteousness and claims of being the sole holders of gods truth on earth etc is mearly a by-product of our mutual presence in the forum. If you choose to believe that your behaviour here and your copy-pasted plagiarisms "prick my conscience" then I will allow you to soothe yourself with that thought.
As to wether our exchanges are a waste of time - again I point you to the fact you are posting here with me now and not in fact resigned from the site as you have threatened to do several times.
Originally posted by divegeesteryou have never been a witness and yet here you are pontificating to two people who have been witnesses for decades about our organisation? your arrogance and stupidity are boundless,
My responses are clear and to the point; I question you on your beliefs because you contradict yourself, each other and are sometimes dishonest in how you represent yourself. In my opinion.
The word "dirt" was introduced by lemon lime, not me. Once again you have your facts wrong. My interest in the garden of Eden and the soil in it (as I've explaine ...[text shortened]... e with me now and not in fact resigned from the site as you have threatened to do several times.
for anyone that is interested, here is the pernicious cult that he is talking about please see below, notice those frowns upon their faces, repressed and enslaved to doctrines which are contemptible and corruptible. Notice how the have no love for each other. Notice how they are racially divided. Notice how there is a generation gap. Notice how repressed the women are. Notice how domineering the men are and then compare it to your experience of sitting in a church for you might as well sit in a railway station.
Jehovahs Witness convention, Seattle Washington, 2014,
I have said it once and i will say it again, we are beautiful and no amount of snide and ignorant remarks from haters can change that fact. Haters gonna hate and we gonna keep spreadin da love cause we are beautiful.
03 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75drop kick over da moon.
I know you don't agree and can "only" respond as you usually do.
God does not let you see or understand even the easy, simply truths in the bible and common sense issues like the silly confusion you have on what the "dirt" in the Garden of Eden consisted of.
You have "no desire" to see what the Bible actually says but only feed off of your own desi ...[text shortened]... ues.
So...... pretty much a waste of time to discuss anything with you, isn't it?
Yep!
03 Sep 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe behaviour of you and galveston75 in this community generates some information about Jehovah's Witnesses.
you have never been a witness and yet here you are pontificating to two people who have been witnesses for decades about our organisation? your arrogance and stupidity are boundless,
for anyone that is interested, here is the pernicious cult that he is talking about please see below, notice those frowns upon their faces, repressed and enslaved to ...[text shortened]... change that fact. Haters gonna hate and we gonna keep spreadin da love cause we are beautiful.
03 Sep 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThe internet is awash with Jehovah's Witness abuse.
you have never been a witness and yet here you are pontificating to two people who have been witnesses for decades about our organisation? your arrogance and stupidity are boundless,
for anyone that is interested, here is the pernicious cult that he is talking about please see below, notice those frowns upon their faces, repressed and enslaved to ...[text shortened]... change that fact. Haters gonna hate and we gonna keep spreadin da love cause we are beautiful.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2678038/Jehovahs-Witness-elder-jailed-14-years-sexually-abusing-young-female-members-congregation-raped-one-woman-leaving-pregnant.html
The worst thing that happened to your organisation on these boards is you pair of clowns.
03 Sep 14
Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhy is it when someone calls you out on something it is "pontificating", but you quite happily hurl all manner of insults without so much as batting an eyelid.
you have never been a witness and yet here you are pontificating to two people who have been witnesses for decades about our organisation? your arrogance and stupidity are boundless,
for anyone that is interested, here is the pernicious cult that he is talking about please see below, notice those frowns upon their faces, repressed and enslaved to ...[text shortened]... change that fact. Haters gonna hate and we gonna keep spreadin da love cause we are beautiful.
03 Sep 14
Originally posted by FMF"Hummm, I can't find where he said that. In fact I've never seen that scripture either.
I am fifty years old.
I asked you: Do you endorse robbie's explicit claim that the use of cigarettes "is forbidden in scripture"?
You answered 'Yes'.
I pointed out that ~ because of what you said on page 80 ~ that you were contradicting yourself.
And your follow up 'debating point' is to call me "childish" rather than explain your own contradiction.
One would be forgiven for thinking we are at ground zero of your modus operandi here. 🙂
Maybe you do like Divegeester and don't really read our post correctly.
Perhaps you can show where he explicity said that and the scripture he quoted?"
Your not paying attention. Lets try again......
Robbie never quoted a scripture that had the word "cigarette" in it did he? No because they did not exist when the Bible was written did they? Neither were such things as "shooting up with drugs" mentioned in the Bible but the PRINCIPLE is still in the bible. So does that make shooting up an ok thing to do since it is not specifically mentioned or of using mind altering drugs?
If you guys would stop and think instead of just reacting you might figure this stuff out on your own?
That is what I was saying in my earlier post.
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03 Sep 14
Originally posted by divegeesterYou are only one little bitty tiny human being's opinion spouting it out like a spokesman for satan.
My responses are clear and to the point; I question you on your beliefs because you contradict yourself, each other and are sometimes dishonest in how you represent yourself. In my opinion.
The word "dirt" was introduced by lemon lime, not me. Once again you have your facts wrong. My interest in the garden of Eden and the soil in it (as I've explaine ...[text shortened]... e with me now and not in fact resigned from the site as you have threatened to do several times.
I know what the WTS is and nothing on this planet, especially someone like you will ever tarnish that...
Good day sir!
03 Sep 14
Originally posted by galveston75But galveston75, isn't that just the whole point of what's being discussed here? Isn't that just the whole point behind robbie contradicting himself? Isn't that the whole point behind you contradicting yourself? Isn't that exactly the point behind you and robbie contradicting each other? It's as if you haven't been reading the thread.
Robbie never quoted a scripture that had the word "cigarette" in it did he?
04 Sep 14
Originally posted by FMFI think they're both smoking cigarettes and afraid of being banished by the JW high command.
But galveston75, isn't that just the whole point of what's being discussed here? Isn't that just the whole point behind robbie contradicting himself? Isn't that the whole point behind you contradicting yourself? Isn't that exactly the point behind you and robbie contradicting each other? It's as if you haven't been reading the thread.