The love of God

Originally posted by @leunammi
dj2becker,

Funny thing is, I have been thinking this very thing myself for quite awhile. I have waffled as to whether to make a statement about it or not in this forum, but decided against it because I figured nobody really gave a rats arse, the obsession is death and where one spends the afterlife if one has one at all.

I am glad to see that I am ...[text shortened]... be]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkMG6DogaDw&list=PLzRKzV9Z0VKTjdU2C3z6Fv25xl8Yh3kBv[/youtube]

Eh, you what?

Originally posted by @christopher-albon
Eh, you what?

I think this was the crux of what he had to offer:

I have attempted on a few occasions to steer the general rudeness of some towards a more edifying direction when responding to fellow Christians (fellow believers) but that in turn only results in a level of obnoxiousness that I really rather not entertain and can't deal with.

Originally posted by @leunammi

You believe that the way that Jesus did not intend for you to beleive it.

You assume and make yourself look foolish, you don't know what my understanding is or how I believe on this scripture as I have never stated it nor been asked.

You see Rajk999, the problem is, you do this with a lot of people from what I have seen. You have yo ...[text shortened]... y of this resonate at all with you, or am I in your mind just another loser with nothing to say?

You are really hilarious. Does a man need to fight with everyone to know who is on his side? I will deal with the content of your post later. You side with those who preach mouthworsh otherwise you would have been more vocal about it.

Originally posted by @fmf
So what is your purpose then when you flit into ongoing conversations, withhold information about your beliefs and opinions about the topic in hand, and then refer to how people don't know what you haven't told them? On a debate and discussion forum, what is your purpose in doing something like that?

The ability to be upfront and forthright with their beliefs is lacking around here among many Christians.

Originally posted by @rajk999
They have the clique mentality. Its all about support for their friends, rather than a having a truthful and honest discssion. Several others are infected by this diseasse .. josephw, lennunammi, sonship are just a few.

All of whom disagree with you. Funny how that works.

Originally posted by Rajk999
They have the clique mentality. Its all about support for their friends, rather than a having a truthful and honest discssion. Several others are infected by this diseasse .. josephw, lennunammi, sonship are just a few.

Originally posted by Suzianne to Rajk999
All of whom disagree with you. Funny how that works.

Do you think the fact there are disagreements with Rajk999 has given rise to clique a mentality among some of his critics?

Originally posted by @fmf
So what is your purpose then when you flit into ongoing conversations, withhold information about your beliefs and opinions about the topic in hand, and then refer to how people don't know what you haven't told them? On a debate and discussion forum, what is your purpose in doing something like that?

That WOOSH sound was his point flying right over your head in your stampede to attempt to denigrate and side-step what he DID say.

But oh, no, don't misunderstand me. I didn't say that you didn't understand what he said, I'm saying that you are trying to deflect and obfuscate from what he said, to 'play it down', to ignore it. And On a debate and discussion forum, what is your purpose in doing something like that?

Never mind, we damn well know what your 'purpose in doing something like that' is.

Originally posted by @fmf
Do you think the fact there are disagreements with Rajk999 has given rise to clique a mentality among some of his critics?

Do you mean anything like your "clique/mob mentality"? Is that what you're talking about?

If so, then no, not at all. Far from it.

Originally posted by @fmf
I think this was the crux of what he had to offer:

[b]I have attempted on a few occasions to steer the general rudeness of some towards a more edifying direction when responding to fellow Christians (fellow believers) but that in turn only results in a level of obnoxiousness that I really rather not entertain and can't deal with. [/b]

Polytheists are believers too.

Originally posted by @leunammi
..Belief with your mouth, belief with your heart, what is that?..

Your post now . so you dont know the difference between
1. Belief with your mouth
2. Belief with your heart??

Here is a comment from Jesus:

.. This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. (Mark 7:6 KJV)

And there are many such instances where Jesus differentiates between :
1. Proclaiming that you know Him - mouth worship
2. Following and obeying his commandments - believing with your heart.

Originally posted by @leunammi
.. Belief with your mouth, belief with your heart, what is that?

Do you realize that in Revelation, they overcome? by what? Mouth Worship (your phrase). The word of their testimony is 'mouth worship' to God, there is power in that.

Revelation 12:11 New King James Version (NKJV)

11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb and by the ...[text shortened]... y of this resonate at all with you, or am I in your mind just another loser with nothing to say?

Continuing with your Revelation quote. Do you know what is a testimony? There is good testimony and there are bad or worthless testimonies

This Revelation quote is a statement of something GOOD in this case, something a Christian has done that is exemplary, righteous, and obedient to Christ. It is through this doing something good and righteous, that they overcame, they conquered Satan.

Testimony here is about their statement about their obedience to Christ.

Its the same thing I said. Jesus wants obedience not talk and lip service.

Originally posted by @suzianne
That WOOSH sound was his point flying right over your head in your stampede to attempt to denigrate and side-step what he DID say.

But oh, no, don't misunderstand me. I didn't say that you didn't understand what he said, I'm saying that you are trying to deflect and obfuscate from what he said, to 'play it down', to ignore it. And On a debat ...[text shortened]... that?

Never mind, we damn well know what your 'purpose in doing something like that' is.

This post seems to me to have no substance.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Do you mean anything like [b]your "clique/mob mentality"? Is that what you're talking about?

If so, then no, not at all. Far from it.[/b]

Sometimes your line of attack is that nobody likes me. Other times your line of attack is that lots of people like me. It seem totally random on your part.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Do you mean anything like [b]your "clique/mob mentality"? Is that what you're talking about?[/b]

No, that wasn't what I was talking about. What I was talking about was this: it was a question:

Do you think the fact there are disagreements with Rajk999 has given rise to clique a mentality among some of his critics?