THE WORD OF GOD

blindfaith101

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04 Dec 05

kirksey957

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04 Dec 05

Originally posted by RBHILL
Was Judas ever a believer?

Judas was never a true follower of Jesus. His only god was money. In fact, the only other time the phrase "son of perdition" is used to refer to anyone other than Judas is in reference to the Antichrist, the sworn enemy of every believer in the end times.

Judas was chosen by Jesus. Jesus knew what Judas would do. He had ...[text shortened]... /2005_CRM/WasJudasEverSaved.html

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Was Judas ever a Believer

How can both of these claims be true? You say that Jesus already knew what Judas would do, but he also had "every chance, like the other disciples, to be saved."

ivanhoe

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04 Dec 05

Originally posted by kirksey957
How can both of these claims be true? You say that Jesus already knew what Judas would do, but he also had "every chance, like the other disciples, to be saved."

You're the expert, Rev. Why don't you give us your view on this mystery. What is your solution ?

The Chess Express

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04 Dec 05

It’s important to note that it was God’s will that Jesus be crucified. There are some who believe that Judas was actually following Jesus’ instructions.

ivanhoe

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04 Dec 05

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Originally posted by The Chess Express
It’s important to note that it was God’s will that Jesus be crucified. There are some who believe that Judas was actually following Jesus’ instructions.

If that is true he wouldn't have committed suicide.

Jay Peatea

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04 Dec 05

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Originally posted by blindfaith101
Was Judas ever a Believer?

In what ?

Edit Doh! you mean the word of god, right ?

David C

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04 Dec 05

Originally posted by blindfaith101
Was Judas ever a Believer?

No. Judas represents the constellation of Scorpio, which betrays the Sun unto it's Winter "death" after it passes the Autumnal Equinox to venture below the celestial equator, where darkness rules. The 30 pieces of "silver" are allegorical, and represent the 30° of each of the 12 constellations the Sun passes "through".

I'm sure it's all just a silly coincidence, though.

aspviper666

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04 Dec 05

Originally posted by blindfaith101
Was Judas ever a Believer?

well since i am not GOD
i cant see into a heart to make a judgement
i think its GODS job to judge judas
not MINE
merry xmas
lets celebrate the birth of x

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04 Dec 05

Originally posted by blindfaith101
Was Judas ever a Believer?

He was a Priest. (not a Monkey)

RBHILL

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05 Dec 05

Originally posted by aspviper666
well since i am not GOD
i cant see into a heart to make a judgement
i think its GODS job to judge judas
not MINE
merry xmas
lets celebrate the birth of x

The Word of God, has Judas's judgement of God in it.

kirksey957

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05 Dec 05

Originally posted by ivanhoe
You're the expert, Rev. Why don't you give us your view on this mystery. What is your solution ?

"My" solution is that God does not know the future. Free will exists.

~~windmill~~

your king.

H.Q.

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05 Dec 05

Originally posted by kirksey957
"My" solution is that God does not know the future. Free will exists.

God does know the future.

~~windmill~~

your king.

H.Q.

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05 Dec 05

Originally posted by RBHILL
The Word of God, has Judas's judgement of God in it.

YES...it does!

DoctorScribbles

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05 Dec 05

Originally posted by windmill
God does know the future.

Then free will is an illusion, for the ability to exercise free will entails the ability to determine future states.

ivanhoe

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05 Dec 05

Originally posted by kirksey957
"My" solution is that God does not know the future. Free will exists.

The Triune God does not know the future, which means that you do not believe in God's omniscience.

Is this a belief confessed by your Church, the Southern Baptist Church if my memory serves me well, or is it your own version of the Christian faith ?

DoctorScribbles

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05 Dec 05

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Originally posted by ivanhoe
The Triune God does not know the future, which means that you do not believe in God's omniscience.

Is this a belief confessed by your Church, the Southern Baptist Church if my memory serves me well, or is it your own version of the Christian faith ?

It's a truth revealed in the Bible repeatedly.