@sonship saidYou mean people who believe the true doctrine of Christ need to ask God to help them believe your false doctrine of the Trinity ?
@KellyJay
Amen. By His mercy . . . I have come to accept and believe His word.
Those who have difficulty, imo, should go to God and ask for mercy.
"Lord, I believe. Help thou my unbelief."
LOL ... π You are a nutcase.
@galveston75 saidGod the Father, God the Son and the Holy Spirit are distinct from each other.
So what exactly does that mean? You see it seems that just about any words you can come with explains it. No it doesn't because no matter how hard one manipulates a new set of words it still doesn't explain anything.
But..... this is a great explanation for a married couple. Actually it's a great one. But the glaring fault with it is that it applies to (( 2 )) separate ...[text shortened]... (( 3 )) separate humans maybe all with an equal share of running this house.
So is this a trinity?
That’s evident throughout the Holy Bible.
@galveston75 saidThe man who voiced Bugs Bunny, Mel Blanc, was not actually Bugs Bunny, was he?
@galveston75
Also if Jesus is also Jehovah, why doesn't he use the voice of GOD here?
"One of those verses states that the resurrected Lord Jesus “will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” (1 Thessalonians 4:β16)
@galveston75 saidWe have been telling you three persons, one being, in marriage which is an example of one where two become one. The difference is we are physical beings, being united, while God is Spirit, we were a part before when we marry then we become one, while God was never a part, and always was together.
So what exactly does that mean? You see it seems that just about any words you can come with explains it. No it doesn't because no matter how hard one manipulates a new set of words it still doesn't explain anything.
But..... this is a great explanation for a married couple. Actually it's a great one. But the glaring fault with it is that it applies to (( 2 )) separate ...[text shortened]... (( 3 )) separate humans maybe all with an equal share of running this house.
So is this a trinity?
Show scripture where Got the Father wasn't always God the Father, where the Word of God wasn't always the Word of God.
24 Dec 21
@kellyjay saidFather, Son. One precedes the other. If in doubt check a dictionary.
Show scripture where Got the Father wasn't always God the Father, where the Word of God wasn't always the Word of God.
Father Greater and always there
Son Lesser and came at some later time
Father begot the Son
Son was born of the Father
Father knows all things
Son does not
Father issues commandments
Son obeys
Equality - No
@rajk999 saidScripture, without that, all you are offering is an opinion, which I acknowledge you have without a doubt. You are the only person I know who says that when we disagree with them, we disagree with Jesus, so your opinion of your opinion is relatively high. I don't argue they are equal, only that they are one, God, with the Father greater, the Son obeying, the Father begot the Son so He could be a man.
Father, Son. One precedes the other. If in doubt check a dictionary.
Father Greater and always there
Son Lesser and came at some later time
Father begot the Son
Son was born of the Father
Father knows all things
Son does not
Father issues commandments
Son obeys
Equality - No
@galveston75 saidAnd yet a poignant and concise refuting of one of your core doctrines.
Not worth reading....
How many men have fallen in love and compared the voice of their beloved to the voice of an angel? Does this mean their love was actually an angel?
It's a comparison. Nothing more. When anyone compares two things, only stupid people assume the two things must be the same thing.
26 Dec 21
@Rajk999
Me:
Was the Word God?
If you say no, then you yourself admit to denying Christ.
That is the position you YOURSELF have taken by denying (John 1:1).
Rajk999's response
That is your opinion. I heard it before and responded.
You believe as you wish. I will believe as I wish.
You continue to make rules which Jesus did not make.
Maybe you should check on yourself.
When Peter says "our God and Savior, Jesus Christ" (1 Pet. 1:1)
And one denies that Jesus Christ is God, how can he be affirming that He is Jesus CHRIST ?
@sonship saidTwo points here. You continue to misquote the bible [The passage is 2 Peter[ which is annoying to those who know better and misleading to those that dont. Your bible version has been twisted and manipulated to suit your doctrine. Whoever did that is crooked. Here is the passage
@Rajk999
Me:Was the Word God?
If you say no, then you yourself admit to denying Christ.
That is the position you YOURSELF have taken by denying (John 1:1).
Simon Peter, a servant and an apostle of Jesus Christ, to them that have obtained like precious faith with us through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christπ2 Peter 1:1 KJV)
Peter is saying he obtained the faith through the righteousness of God, and the saviour Jesus Christ. Your version has twisted it to mean that Jesus is God. You are as crooked as the writer of that bible.