Spirituality
13 Aug 22
14 Aug 22
@divegeester saidJust read dive not much is required of you.
Could you please describe what “reality” is without expressing it as a “personal view”?
Thanks.
@kellyjay saidHang on! Does Code = Ghost?
Code
I might need another cookie from the Oracle before I can process this.
@kellyjay saidAs you might know, there's at least one story in the Jewish tradition about an illiterate farmer or shepherd who is sincerely devout but who feels embarrassed that he doesn't know how to pray, and an Angel tells him that The Lord would be happy just to hear him count numbers or recite the aleph-bet for The Lord's ears.
Just read dive not much is required of you.
@divegeester saidHave you not yet arrived at the understanding that reality expresses itself, you silly doofus?
KellyJay,
Could you please describe what “reality” is without expressing it as a “personal view”?
@divegeester saidIf you cannot tell reality from opinion nothing I say will help you.
KellyJay,
Could you please describe what “reality” is without expressing it as a “personal view”?
@kellyjay saidIf you will not allow Christ the Liberator to free you from some blab that some (perhaps well-meaning) Jewish guys wrote thousands of years ago, then maybe you don't want to be free.
If you cannot tell reality from opinion nothing I say will help you.
Maybe you feel more comfortable trying to control others -- for their own good, of course.
14 Aug 22
@kellyjay saidyou cannot know if you are right or not
Therefore, you cannot know if you are right or not, ever, that as far as you are
concerned, the truth will always be elusive to you!?
Cannot "know"?
That's right.
You for example have your religious faith. That is BELIEVING, not KNOWING.
My opinion about the "truth" in these matters is also a case of BELIEVING and not KNOWING, regardless of how certain I might be. Same goes for you.
14 Aug 22
@kellyjay said"Forever learning", yes, for some people, maybe not all. Some will retreat into curiosity-ending or certainty-driven ideology.
Do you think you will forever be
learning and never coming to knowledge, just an endless loop of speculation?
We all have our personal opinions about the veracity of the "knowledge" we believe we have in these matters.
@kellyjay saidWhat I "profess" are just the beliefs that I hold about the "truth" after I synthesise everything I have ever read, every conversation I have ever had, and everything I have ever heard, thought and experienced.
If
you profess this as a truth that must include everyone, how do you know this is
true?
@divegeester saidWhy pick on your little brother, you proud and vicious little coward?
Stop dodging KellyJay.
I’m asking you to describe reality without expressing it as an opinion.
This is a direct question relating to your OP.
What questions do you ask the God you pretend to believe in?
@kellyjay said"Once we die, reality will be revealed one way or another". Indeed, and until then we can but speculate about that reality and express our opinions about it
Once we die, reality will be revealed one way or
another, as it does all the time when we pit our beliefs in opposition to it.