Originally posted by @fmfWhen we are are not with God we are completely sinful.
You said "Our own righteousness apart from God is as filthy rags". This suggests ~ does it not? ~ that your own righteousness 'with' God is [b]not as filthy rags. Please be clear about what you are [or aren't] asserting.[/b]
11 Jul 18
Originally posted by @kellyjaySaved by grace.
God is good none of us are, the Father so loved us while we were yet sinners He sent Jesus the Word of God, to become one of us to become sin who knew no sin and God punishes Jesus taking our sins and iniquities upon Himself. We are saved and made clean by Jesus Christ grace.
This is not us being good enough or earning it is a gift. Which had you ever been a Christian even in name only you should have known.
Eternal life is only granted if one lives righteously
Jesus will judge
Originally posted by @kellyjayYou are dodging my question.
God is good none of us are, the Father so loved us while we were yet sinners He sent Jesus the Word of God, to become one of us to become sin who knew no sin and God punishes Jesus taking our sins and iniquities upon Himself. We are saved and made clean by Jesus Christ grace.
11 Jul 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayJesus said no such thing. In fact Jesus defined what righteousness was. Jesus defined what perfection was. Jesus advised man to work towards it by following His commandments. Instead all you hear from Christians is how evil and sinful man is, and how nobody could follow Jesus's commandments.
This is why our own righteousness apart from God is as filthy rags.
You Christians are the complete opposite of Christ. The only thing that is totally depraved is your sick doctrine that discourages good works and righteousness.
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Originally posted by @rajk999Can we be righteous without accepting the grace of God?
Jesus said no such thing. In fact Jesus defined what righteousness was. Jesus defined what perfection was. Jesus advised man to work towards it by following His commandments. Instead all you hear from Christians is how evil and sinful man is, and how nobody could follow Jesus's commandments.
You Christians are the complete opposite of Christ. The only t ...[text shortened]... g that is totally depraved is your sick doctrine that discourages good works and righteousness.
Originally posted by @dj2beckerPlease read Matt 25 -
Where did Jesus say that our works make us righteous?
The righteous enter the Kingdom of God. What did these people do according to Christ?
What did the other people who were cast out NOT DO, according to Christ?
Originally posted by @dj2beckerApparently Christians cannot. But the rest of the world can.
Can we be righteous without accepting the grace of God?
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11 Jul 18
Originally posted by @dj2beckerI called you depraved for your fixation on such things. Are you claiming your use of the word 'depravity' in the thread title is not in relation to this?
Your red herring is noted. You are the one bringing up the rape and torture of children, it has not been mentioned in this thread before you did.
11 Jul 18
Originally posted by @rajk999They were being judged for their works, no one disputes that, but we are not saved by our works least any of us boast before God.
Please read Matt 25 -
The righteous enter the Kingdom of God. What did these people do according to Christ?
What did the other people who were cast out NOT DO, according to Christ?
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11 Jul 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayWhy judge them for their works if this would have no influence on their salvation?
They were being judged for their works, no one disputes that, but we are not saved by our works least any of us boast before God.
11 Jul 18
Originally posted by @kellyjayJesus said no such thing.
They were being judged for their works, no one disputes that, but we are not saved by our works least any of us boast before God.
Jesus called these people RIGHTEOUS ... Got that?
Those people who did NO WORKS, Jesus CAST THEM OUT.
As usual nothing of your doctrine is from Christ.
I would be worried if I were you.