Truth .. JW Style

Originally posted by ThinkOfOneWhen his listeners were unable to grasp the significance, he explained to them the meaning, not once can i recall him using ambiguous, verbose or extensive terminology.

And yet, many did not truly comprehend what He was saying.

and Originally posted by tacoandlettuce
Many chose not to open their ears to hear, nor their eyes to see.

end of quote

Originally posted by tacoandlettuce
You bring up the Pope, but my question is, if the Pope is a God reverenced symbol to stand by, then why does he go about in a bubble-like shield to reflect off any weapon that were shot at him? What would Christ Jesus do?

Probably Jesus wouldn't announce it publicly-but then how would everyone know he was coming?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
Probably Jesus wouldn't announce it publicly-but then how would everyone know he was coming?

The presence of Christ is felt.

Originally posted by tacoandlettuce
The presence of Christ is felt.

with what sense?

Originally posted by karoly aczel
with what sense?

ALL IS CONSCIOUSNESS

Originally posted by tacoandlettuce
You bring up the Pope, but my question is, if the Pope is a God reverenced symbol to stand by, then why does he go about in a bubble-like shield to reflect off any weapon that were shot at him? What would Christ Jesus do?

i didn't bring up the Pope, someone else did, i neither reverence nor view him as a symbol of spirituality, i was merely having some fun with Fabian. Indeed what would Jesus do if he were in a Bubble car, i really have no idea but your free to speculate wildly.

Originally posted by KellyJay
I agree if you forfeit you soul no matter what you get for it is not worth it; however,
you have not addressed my point about diet and saving lives. Saving lives is also
a principle that I can trace to God, so we have a conflict here, you are pushing
a rule about diet over lives. I suggest you either show me how this isn't a dietary
restriction rule and ...[text shortened]... the
saving lives principle, the laying down one's life for others principle and so on.
Kelly

because the illustration was given, if you were told by a doctor to abstain from alcohol, would you then have listen to inject it intravenously? would you respect his authority and his opinion or would you simply transgress it and establish your own thoughts on the matter? i also reject the premise that because in some respects it preserves life, for as i have extensively shown the practice has also seriously injured and killed tens of thousands of persons.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
i didn't bring up the Pope, someone else did, i neither reverence nor view him as a symbol of spirituality, i was merely having some fun with Fabian. Indeed what would Jesus do if he were in a Bubble car, i really have no idea but your free to speculate wildly.

Forgive me my friend, I was not really addressing the issue to your mention of the Pope. I just saw the opportunity to share that thought as I had previously thought to in another one of these threads and decided this is just as fine here.

Originally posted by tacoandlettuce
Forgive me my friend, I was not really addressing the issue to your claim of the Pope. I just saw the opportunity to share that thought as I had previously thought to in another one of these threads and decided this is just as fine here.

sure its fine, no need to apologise to little ol me, feel free, indeed it was an interesting point in itself, the contrast between the Pope and that of the Christ, the simplicity of the Christ and the somewhat opulent appearance and manner of living of the Pope, certainly there is a contrast.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sure its fine, no need to apologise to little ol me, feel free, indeed it was an interesting point in itself, the contrast between the Pope and that of the Christ, the simplicity of the Christ and the somewhat opulent appearance and manner of living of the Pope are certainly in stark contrast.

Sadly to say so, but most assuredly..

Originally posted by tacoandlettuce
You bring up the Pope, but my question is, if the Pope is a God reverenced symbol to stand by, then why does he go about in a bubble-like shield to reflect off any weapon that were shot at him? What would Christ Jesus do?

I would think that the reason for these safety measures is obvious. A number of attacks have been tried on Pope Benedict. Early in his pontificate someone jumped barricades and ran after him (the Pope at this time had disposed of the popemobile.) Last year a woman knocked him over as he processed down for the Christmas vigil Mass (and, in fact, broke the hip of one cardinal.) Pope John Paul II himself was shot at and suffered a very serious, almost fatal, wound. The Catholic Church does not teach that the Pope is immune from attacks and so precautions are taken to ensure his safety.

By the way, Catholics do not believe the Pope is a 'God reverenced symbol to stand by' (whatever that means exactly.) The Pope is not God and Catholics happily acknowledge that he is human and subject to all the same weaknesses of the human condition.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
sure its fine, no need to apologise to little ol me, feel free, indeed it was an interesting point in itself, the contrast between the Pope and that of the Christ, the simplicity of the Christ and the somewhat opulent appearance and manner of living of the Pope, certainly there is a contrast.

Well, actually, despite the grandeur of the Vatican state, the Pope's abode is actually quite modest. His office, from where he leans out the window to lead the Angelus prayer, is quite tiny and his apartment is not very grand either. You can see it all in this documentary:

YouTube

Originally posted by Conrau K
I would think that the reason for these safety measures is obvious. A number of attacks have been tried on Pope Benedict. Early in his pontificate someone jumped barricades and ran after him (the Pope at this time had disposed of the popemobile.) Last year a woman knocked him over as he processed down for the Christmas vigil Mass (and, in fact, broke the hi ...[text shortened]... ly acknowledge that he is human and subject to all the same weaknesses of the human condition.

i watched a video today of the Popes mass in Bellahouston park, Glasgow, the faithful waving and cheering. After listening to the comments of those who had travelled i could not help but feel that he was rather aloof and distant. His speech was concerning secularism and its effects on spirituality, which i thought was rather ironic considering the many secular ideas the the Catholic church has embraced, the theory of evolution being one. It was a somewhat sombre affair, not like the processions that one sees in South America, perhaps it was the Scottish temperament, who can say?

Originally posted by Conrau K
Well, actually, despite the grandeur of the Vatican state, the Pope's abode is actually quite modest. His office, from where he leans out the window to lead the Angelus prayer, is quite tiny and his apartment is not very grand either. You can see it all in this documentary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwIsyhCdJgg

i was thinking more of his ruby encrusted ring, flowing robes and golden pointy hat. ill give the video a watch though.

Originally posted by Conrau K
I would think that the reason for these safety measures is obvious. A number of attacks have been tried on Pope Benedict. Early in his pontificate someone jumped barricades and ran after him (the Pope at this time had disposed of the popemobile.) Last year a woman knocked him over as he processed down for the Christmas vigil Mass (and, in fact, broke the hi ...[text shortened]... ly acknowledge that he is human and subject to all the same weaknesses of the human condition.

I would like to apologize if I was harsh on the Pope. I was just addressing that if he were following Christ's teachings he would be of awareness that his refuge ever is the Lord on High, and as martyrs live by, give their lives if this is what presents it's self. That they, as well as Jesus, are of self immolation, sacrifice of self for the benefit of all, knowing as they know that God only EVER COULD BE their Life, as Jesus said "Follow me, the WAY, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. Or let the dead (ignorant) bury their dead."...