Using the Bible to insult people

Originally posted by Startreader
Major misquote!

That last passage, that you have attributed to me, can be read on page 13 of this thread.

I did not post that. Robbie Carrobie did.

Please retract and apologise.

Apologies. robbie has chosen to use a modified version of your avatar. I think I may have made the same mistake before once or twice. Sorry about that.

But do you see how your "it applies to everyone" answer crumbled under examination. "It applies to everyone" does not explain why the Bible verse was aimed at divegeester in the middle of a General Forum chat.

Originally posted by Startreader
You seem not to know what a debate is, nor the customary rules of debate.

Do you think josephw was showing that he "knows what a debate is" on pages 13-15 of that General Forum thread? Was his use of the Bible verse proper and fitting?

Originally posted by FMF
Apologies. robbie has chosen to use a modified version of your avatar. I think I may have made the same mistake before once or twice. Sorry about that.

But do you see how your "it applies to everyone" answer crumbled under examination. "It applies to everyone" does not explain why the Bible verse was aimed at divegeester in the middle of a General Forum chat.

Thank you. Yes, Robbie chose to do that a while ago, I think hoping then to annoy me. After consideration, I decided he'd created quite an attractive avatar, and so chose not to be annoyed.

Truly, I cannot explain why Joseph or anyone posts as they do or have. I am answerable for my posts alone.

Originally posted by Startreader
That last passage, that you have attributed to me, can be read on page 13 of this thread.

FMF[/b]: Do you think divegeester is the kind of "enemy of God" that is mentioned in James 4:4?

Startreader: Read it in context. We are each and all exhorted to "resist the devil". It applies to everyone.

FMF: Does josephw's citing of Janes 4:4 now make you wary of having anything to do with non-Christians [like Wolfgang59] on this web site?

Startreader: Who? Me? Of course not!

FMF: So josephw's citing of James 4:4 DOES apply when divegeester swaps quips with non-Christian Wolfgang59 but... it doesn't apply if you swaps quips with non-Christian Wolfgang59? Didn't you just say James 4:4 "applies to everyone"?

Startreader: What on earth are you talking about? What possible connection are you making between that post and your preceding post?
The Bible, and thus James 4 including the fourth verse applies to everyone at all times. I don't "swap quips" with anyone. It's not my style. Nor that of James in 4:4

Your "it applies to everyone" catchphrase was just evasion.

Originally posted by Startreader
Truly, I cannot explain why Joseph or anyone posts as they do or have. I am answerable for my posts alone.

Why then did you suggest divegeester thank josephw for what he posted?

Originally posted by FMF
FMF: Do you think divegeester is the kind of "enemy of God" that is mentioned in James 4:4?

Startreader: Read it in context. We are each and all exhorted to "resist the devil". It applies to everyone.

FMF: Does josephw's citing of Janes 4:4 now make you wary of having anything to do with non-Christians [like Wolfgang59] on this web site? ...[text shortened]... y style. Nor that of James in 4:4

Your "it applies to everyone" catchphrase was just evasion.[/b]

You may choose to see it as an evasion. I was telling the truth.

Now, you may choose to see this as an evasion, but I have a funeral to go to. You'll need to find fresh entertainment elsewhere.

Originally posted by Startreader
Who are you talking about?

My reply to FMF was quite obviously referring to jospehw whom he mentioned in his post 😕

Originally posted by Startreader
You seem not to know what a debate is, nor the customary rules of debate.

I'm pretty sure the "customary rules of debate" include being intellectually honest and not accusing your opponent of systematic torture or sadism. 🙄

Originally posted by Startreader
You may choose to see it as an evasion. I was telling the truth.

Now, you may choose to see this as an evasion, but I have a funeral to go to. You'll need to find fresh entertainment elsewhere.

You are not the "entertainment" in this thread.

This thread is not about you, it's about jospehw and him calling me an enemy of God.

Originally posted by FMF
Well you have already said that he seems to be "an enemy of God" according to you. josephw's citing of James 4:4 was triggered by divegeester interacting with a non-Christian (wolfgang59) on this message board. If you interact with non-Christians on these forums, would it be an appropriate use of the Christian Bible to direct James 4:4 at you? Would josephw be justified in doing so?

I am not interested in whether it was appropriate I am interested in whether this divesgeester a self proclaimed Christian has made himself a friend of the world and an enemy of God. The evidence so far is that his best friend on this site is an apostate and that he condemns other Christians for upholding Biblical beliefs. Naturally I have no interest in judging him merely ascertaining if its the case. Arguments over whether its appropriate for Joseph to alledge it are simply pettiness compared to the much more weighty reality of whether he is or is not.

Originally posted by divegeester
You are not the "entertainment" in this thread.

This thread is not about you, it's about jospehw and him calling me an enemy of God.

Yes so are you?

How to determine if you are a friend of the world and an enemy of God?

1. Is your best friend an apostate?
2. Do you condemn other Christians for upholding Biblical values?
3. Do you see yourself as above reproach and throw a flakey every time someone criticizes you with a Biblical verse?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am not interested in whether it was appropriate I am interested in whether this divesgeester a self proclaimed Christian has made himself a friend of the world and an enemy of God. The evidence so far is that his best friend on this site is an apostate and that he condemns other Christians for upholding Biblical beliefs. Naturally I have no intere ...[text shortened]... ge it are simply pettiness compared to the much more weighty reality of whether he is or is not.

I am not an enemy of God, I am a saved by grace Christian
Having non Christian friends is not anti-Christian
I never ever condemn other Christians

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I am not interested in whether it was appropriate....

Whether or not it is appropriate is the topic of this thread.

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Arguments over whether its appropriate for Joseph to alledge it are simply pettiness compared to the much more weighty reality of whether he is or is not.

And yet you are alleging that there's evidence that divegeester is "an enemy of God". Why isn't the fun you are so clearly trying to extract here "simply pettiness" also?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie to divegeester
Yes so are you?

You've already stated that you think he seems to be "an enemy of God". He isn't going to agree with you.