Was Abe Lincoln President?

Originally posted by orfeo
Bingo. I think you're doing an excellent job with this thread, but I think the wrong people are reading it...

Who are the right people?

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
The onslaught of ad hominem arguments and the slick dodging of the question under study are truly befitting of this forum. I'm disappointed that so many of you can't see through the blatant proof by contradiction, an argument stru ...[text shortened]... think that the original poster doubts Lincoln's presidency?

Gee whiz, Dr Scribbles, who'd a thunk it? Absoidist spirituality...what could be better?

I think the King made his point in his first post. The reluctant leader, whose presidency was foisted on him... It could be the basis for an amusing story...maybe even funnier than the Life of Brian! And I suppose President equals God for some, so he could really on the money with this one.

One thing--Lincoln may never have said as much, but he acted like a president. Not to mention he was elected. The Man of Sorrows...what did he act like? (I've probably missed the point of this discussion entirely).

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage

One thing--Lincoln may never have said as much, but he acted like a president. Not to mention he was elected. The Man of Sorrows...what did he act like? (I've probably missed the point of this discussion entirely).

I'm not so sure he acted like a president. He didn't act like the kind of president I think he should have acted like. Do you know why he grew his beard? To hide. Do you think that the "president" could use such a basic disguise? Clearly not. And how was Lincoln killed? He was shot at the theatre. What kind of "President" is sitting around enjoying a play when there is tons of work to be done at reconstructing the country he ruined by his crusade to wipe out dissenters? No sir, Lincoln didn't act like a president, let alone a good president to be worshipped by generations of orthodox Americans. But I thank you for recognizing his interesting silence on the issue of his office.

Originally posted by kingdanwa
And how was Lincoln killed? He was shot at the theatre. .

He knew full well of his impending death. The mise-en-scene of his demise was a canny comment on the stagecraft of statesmanship.

The false beard wouldn't wash today though.

Just how far has Lincoln-worship gone?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
He knew full well of his impending death. The mise-en-scene of his demise was a canny comment on the stagecraft of statesmanship.

The false beard wouldn't wash today though.

Just how far has Lincoln-worship gone?

Interesting comment about knowing of his impending death.

How far has worship gone? Well, if he was a fraud, which seems to be getting clearer and clearer with every post, then our black brothers and sisters still belong in slavery. Also, have you looked at your five dollar bill or your penny recently? How many other false presidents are sported on our coinage? Also, how many fifth grade text books expose Lincoln for the fake that he was? Our American Indoctrination Committee (the public schools) is nothing more than a propaganda warehouse for the promotion of false history in the name of American Orthodoxy. It's the one, true state religion.

Originally posted by kingdanwa
Interesting comment about knowing of his impending death.

How far has worship gone? Well, if he was a fraud, which seems to be getting clearer and clearer with every post, then our black brothers and sisters still belong in slavery. Also, have you looked at your five dollar bill or your penny recently? How many other false presidents are sported on o ...[text shortened]... omotion of false history in the name of American Orthodoxy. It's the one, true state religion.

Hold on just a second. I've reason to believe that, far from the political travesty you'd have us think he was, Lincoln--who never stated he was white--was a covert operative for a radical group of emancipated slaves who wished to make the benefits of liberty universal. His "whiteface" act, replete with the kind of folksy eccentricity which the name Rastus evokes to this day, gulled the White House completely. Is it any wonder that the "president" enjoyed theatre?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Hold on just a second. I've reason to believe that, far from the political travesty you'd have us think he was, Lincoln--who never stated he was white--was a covert operative for a radical group of emancipated slaves who wished to make the benefits of liberty universal. His "whiteface" act, replete with the kind of folksy eccentricity which the na ...[text shortened]... ay, gulled the White House completely. Is it any wonder that the "president" enjoyed theatre?

I'm not sure I understand your point.

Originally posted by DoctorScribbles
This thread has become quite amusing. My favorite part is that nobody has reacted to sonhouse's "What difference does it make that he didn't say it? Judge him by his actions" post which, for anybody who may still be interested in the real discussion here, is one of the points the original poster is attempting to make.

The onslaught of ad ho ...[text shortened]... Lincoln's presidency?

Has nobody here ever proved that the square root of 2 is irrational?

The clown who tried to warn the townsfolk that their houses were on fire.

Originally posted by kingdanwa
I'm not sure I understand your point.

Voodoo spin doctors compete for control of the mythology channel.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
Voodoo spin doctors compete for control of the mythology channel.

Very helpful, thanks for your contribution.

Do you still consider yourself a follower of Lincoln, or do you recant?

Originally posted by kingdanwa

Do you still consider yourself a follower of Lincoln, or do you recant?

I've never considered myself a follower of Lincoln, but I'll recant if it makes you happy. Do I have to prostrate myself?

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
I've never considered myself a follower of Lincoln, but I'll recant if it makes you happy. Do I have to prostrate myself?

Although you don't "follow" Mr. Lincoln, do you still recognize his supposed (or should I say "imposed" ) authority?

Originally posted by kingdanwa
Although you don't "follow" Mr. Lincoln, do you still recognize his supposed (or should I say "imposed" ) authority?

I cannot have a monogamous relationship with the past, if you know what I mean.

Originally posted by Bosse de Nage
I cannot have a monogamous relationship with the past, if you know what I mean.

No, I don't know what you mean.

Originally posted by kingdanwa
No, I don't know what you mean.

The past is unavailable to us except as fiction. Who gets to write it, controls it.