what is Holy Ghost?

Originally posted by @fmf
Are you able to read God's mind?

Nope. Never even implied that I could. Can you?

FMF: Are you able to read God's mind?

Originally posted by @galveston75
Nope. Never even implied that I could.

When I asked you this: "Who told you that God thinks your organization's version is "the most accurate bible to date"? Presumably, someone told you this; who was it?"

Your answer was: "No one. I just know it to be so."

What is that answer of yours implying?

Originally posted by @fmf
When I asked you this: [b]"Who told you that God thinks your organization's version is "the most accurate bible to date"? Presumably, someone told you this; who was it?"

Your answer was: "No one. I just know it to be so."

What is that answer of yours implying?[/b]

Again I just know this, and that's not just for the accuracy of the NWT but as a religion as a whole. So you ask how I know this? Right? Because by this and many other scriptures that speak of the "fruit" it would produce:
Jesus related to his apostles. He said: “I am the true vine, and my Father is the cultivator. Every branch in me not bearing fruit he takes away, and every one bearing fruit he cleans, that it may bear more fruit. You are already clean because of the word that I have spoken to you. Remain in union with me, and I in union with you. Just as the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it remains in the vine, in the same way neither can you, unless you remain in union with me. I am the vine, you are the branches. . . . My Father is glorified in this, that you keep bearing much fruit and prove yourselves my disciples. Just as the Father has loved me and I have loved you, remain in my love. If you observe my commandments, you will remain in my love.”​—John 15:1-10.

So do you get the point from this scripture? This is the crux of why I know beyond a shadow of a doubt is that the JW's are inline (as well as our bible) with what Jehovah wants and what Jesus also commanded. "Bear much fruit" and to clarify "MUCH GOOD FRUIT".
Do you have any idea what this fruit is? If you ever learned this scripture and others like it, you would then understand.
Let me know what you think about this before you change the subject......

Originally posted by @galveston75
Again I just know this, and that's not just for the accuracy of the NWT but as a religion as a whole. So you ask how I know this? Right? Because by this and many other scriptures that speak of the "fruit" it would produce:
Jesus related to his apostles. He said: “I am the true vine, and my Father is the cultivator. Every branch in me not bearing frui ...[text shortened]... uld then understand.
Let me know what you think about this before you change the subject......

I asked you "Who told you that God thinks your organization's version is "the most accurate bible to date"? You answered "No one". So, if no one told you what God thinks, how do you claim to know what God thinks?

Originally posted by @fmf
I asked you "Who told you that God thinks your organization's version is "the most accurate bible to date"? You answered "No one". So, if no one told you what God thinks, how do you claim to know what God thinks?

Uh...by the Bible his word is a start. OK fair is fair, now comment on my last post if you can?

Originally posted by @galveston75
Uh...by the Bible his word is a start.

So if some other Christian claims to know that God thinks their favourite translation is correct ~ for the same reason as you claim to know you are right ~ are you both right?

Originally posted by @fmf
So if some other Christian claims to know that God thinks their favourite translation is correct ~ for the same reason as you claim to know you are right ~ are you both right?

Stop here my friend. No more answers until you answer my post....

FMF: Who told you that God thinks your organization's version is "the most accurate bible to date"?

Originally posted by @galveston75
No one. I just know it to be so. 🙂

For you to "know it to be so" without anyone telling you, wouldn't you at the very least have to have sufficient skills in Biblical languages?

Originally posted by @galveston75
What, nothing new to dig up? Same old expected responses that are not worth the time to type this.

I think my point is well made and is spot on in terms of content and reply your post, trying or dismiss it in this flimsy manner just indicates your inability to deal with the comment I made.

You said in relation to your church and the JW NWT translation of the bible that:

”The bible clearly says that in the last days the "light of the truths would get brighter and brighter"

I am pointing out to you that your religious organisation is in moral decline, the proof being the multitude of claims of child sex about and the reeprimand your leaders have received for attempting to cover it up by not reporting it.

Originally posted by @divegeester
I think my point is well made and is spot on in terms of content and reply your post, trying or dismiss it in this flimsy manner just indicates your inability to deal with the comment I made.

You said in relation to your church and the JW NWT translation of the bible that:

[b][i]”The bible clearly says that in the last days the "light of the tru ...[text shortened]... and the reeprimand your leaders have received for attempting to cover it up by not reporting it.

A point your missing is this so pay attention.
Yes the bible says that the light grows brighter and brighter in the last days in connection to what the bible says and that some would see and understand what these truths that have always been in the bible in reality, are. You personally may not see it just as the bible explains that most won't. So just as with all humans it's up to you and only you if you are truly letting God's spirit work on your heart to understand.
So does you bible not say that? I hope you have one that confirms this statement.
Now just because these understandings of all the scriptures would be opened up to all who possibly have the right heart to see this and learn more of God's word in the bible, it does not mean that most will or that ones who have been involved with the WTS sometimes for years, still remain with the WTS for what ever reasons. It could be for many reasons that one decides that this organization is not for them for only reasons they know. I've known many who have gone another way in their life's, but I' know many more who have remained for their whole life.
Satan is very strong and the ruler of the world at this time and has made a world with many distractions, some innocent by nature and some very sinful that makes millions leaving God by the minute from all religions.
So for some to leave the WTS is to be expected but that does not water down the truth the bible has in it and it does not make the WTS or the people involved and staying true to him any less valued in his eyes. We still have the teaching work Jesus told all Christians to do and even though most Christian religions miss the very clear command, we will follow this until we are told to stop by Jesus.
The rest of your obsessed mindset on child abuse issues is really getting old and has been talked about beyond what is needed.
If you still have issues I'd suggest you contact the WTS yourself and have a long talk with them if this is what it takes to satisfy your need to get justice or whatever your looking for.... I have run out of anything new to continue on again and again with this subject.

Originally posted by @galveston75
If you still have issues I'd suggest you contact the WTS yourself and have a long talk with them if this is what it takes to satisfy your need to get justice or whatever your looking for.

I don't need to contact your head office about it's misdemeanors, the local authorities did that quite adequately when they reprimanded them for not disclosing hundreds and hundreds of complaints of child sex abuse by the leaders.

I'm just pointing it out to you, reminding you of the kind of organisation you are entrenched in. I know you don't like me doing this, and to be honest if I was you I wouldn't like it either but I think I would do something about it rather than put my head in the sand and flop into sulks on internet boards when I was challenged about it,

Originally posted by @divegeester
I don't need to contact your head office about it's misdemeanors, the local authorities did that quite adequately when they reprimanded them for not disclosing hundreds and hundreds of complaints of child sex abuse by the leaders.

I'm just pointing it out to you, reminding you of the kind of organisation you are entrenched in. I know you don't like ...[text shortened]... n put my head in the sand and flop into sulks on internet boards when I was challenged about it,

It's in Jehovah's hands.

Originally posted by @galveston75
It's in Jehovah's hands.

Yes, that’s probalby why your leaders got found out for molesting children. Well done jehovah.

Originally posted by @galveston75

So just as with all humans it's up to you and only you if you are truly letting God's spirit work on your heart to understand.

If you do not believe that the Holy Spirit is a Person, why do you talk about the IT of the spirit of God working on someone's heart ?

Would you say electricity is working on someone's heart?
Would you say that gravity was working on someone's heart?

Would you say any kind of lifeless energy or mere force was working on someone's heart?

Aren't you borrowing an expression used by a trinitarian for a moment to advance JW anti-trinitarian theology?

Originally posted by @sonship

So just as with all humans it's up to you and only you if you are truly letting God's spirit work on your heart to understand.

If you do not believe that the Holy Spirit is a Person, why do you talk about the IT of the spirit of God working on someone's heart ?

Would you say electricity is working on someone's heart?
Would you say t ...[text shortened]... rowing an expression used by a trinitarian for a moment to advance JW anti-trinitarian theology?

Oh no we are not talking about a lifeless energy are we? We are talking about God's energy and one that he directs and uses to do his will.
So comparing it to a random bolt of lightning is not even close.
As humans we would yes, have a hard time understanding the power God has and all his abilities and all that he can do. My gosh just look into space and realize it's all from him. There are things out there we will never see or if we did we would never understand, but yet Jehovah made it all with his power that he calls his spirit or strength.
If Jehovah says his spirit has a personality, it does. If his power has wisdom, then it does. Who are we to doubt what his power or spirit can do.