@divegeester saidAlright, then you might want to stop calling me a coward if you are unwilling to discuss this live.
I have no interest in connecting with you further than via this anonymous discussion board, you may interpret that however you wish.
I feel like myself and others endlessly have the same questions repeated and the meaningful answers are ignored. I wanted to cut through that.
Now, it's fine that you don't want to do it. But the offer remains open, and I will bring it up again if you keep pestering me to answer the same repeated question claiming that I absolutely have never answered it when I have dealt with it in this very thread.
@kellyjay said“Crimes against God”
I cannot help but think you have no idea the cost to Jesus for us, you have no idea our crimes against a Holy God to know what it is that was done for us.
What possible “crime”, action, deed, thought, words anything at all, ANYTHING... Can justify a person being supernaturally kept alive and burnt in agony for eternity?
I’m afraid that I find your version of God to be a monster.
22 Jul 19
@philokalia saidWhere did I say this...?
Alright, then you might want to stop calling me a coward if you are unwilling to discuss this live.
@divegeester saidActually it is the other way around, you think a Holy Good God is at fault for judging crimes by evil and wicked people.
“Crimes against God”
What possible “crime”, action, deed, thought, words anything at all, ANYTHING... Can justify a person being supernaturally kept alive and burnt in agony for eternity?
I’m afraid that I find your version of God to be a monster.
22 Jul 19
@philokalia saidYou are threatening to bring up your invitation to some sort of online video debate as a means of deterring me from asking you pointed on topic questions...is that really what you are saying?
Now, it's fine that you don't want to do it. But the offer remains open, and I will bring it up again if you keep pestering me to answer the same repeated question claiming that I absolutely have never answered it when I have dealt with it in this very thread.
22 Jul 19
@kellyjay saidNo I don’t think that at all and it is certainly not “the other way round” of what pointed out to you in my previous post.
Actually it is the other way around, you think a Holy Good God is at fault for judging crimes by evil and wicked people.
What “crimes” against God could a person possibly commit which warrants the punishment of begin supernaturally kept alive and burnt for eternity?
Why don’t you just pause and think that over, imagine the reality of that and the concept of justice.
@philokalia saidYou backed the creepiest poster this community has ever seen as he posted paedophilic jokes aimed at divegeester day after day, multiple times a day, and even continuing for several months after divegeester had stopped engaging him, with you claiming it was funny and good for the forum, and claiming the paedophile content "mirrored" the content of divegeester's posts, and now you want to chat with divegeester on Skype? You have no idea how you come across here, do you?
Would you like to have this discussion over Skype or another discussion platform, record the content of our spoken exchange, and put it up on YouTube for people hear to judge?
We could cover a lot of ground very quickly and it shouldn't be too hard to arrange for something like that. You can even make a throwaway Skype account so as to protect your privacy.
@divegeester saidGod is justice, and good, and pure, and holy, and so on. Crimes against the divine are not like jay walking. All of our evil and wickedness are assaults on the Holy One, each attack against another is an attack on their maker, each insult against another is an assault against their maker. Whatever we do to the least of these we do to Him, and a life time of doing evil against God is going to get you damned.
No I don’t think that at all and it is certainly not “the other way round” of what pointed out to you in my previous post.
What “crimes” against God could a person possibly commit which warrants the punishment of begin supernaturally kept alive and burnt for eternity?
Why don’t you just pause and think that over, imagine the reality of that and the concept of justice.
You think God should just over look this? You think God should just forget, pretend like the sinner whose crimes against Him that stands before God condemned should pay with a little pain, then disappear? I think your grasp of goodness, justice, holiness are lacking, but your desire for a lack of accountability is in full swing.
@kellyjay saidWhy do keep reciting this over and over again as though these attributes somehow justify or excuse the apocalyptic genocidal holocaust of the eternal torture of billions of souls.
God is justice, and good, and pure, and holy, and so on.
@kellyjay saidWhat “crimes” against an immortal, eternal, all powerful supreme being can possibly warrant being tortured for eternity?
Crimes against the divine are not like jay walking.
@divegeester said'It is because it is'.
Why do keep reciting this over and over again as though these attributes somehow justify or excuse the apocalyptic genocidal holocaust of the eternal torture of billions of souls.
@divegeester said'It is warranted because it is warranted'.
What “crimes” against an immoral, eternal, all powerful supreme being can possibly warrant being tortured for eternity?
@kellyjay saidPerhaps there just might be a few integers of justice squeezed in between: “overlooking” a person’s sin of rejecting God ... and burning them alive for eternity for it.
You think God should just over look this?
What do you reckon?