What is the point of God today?

@pb1022 said
I didn’t say it was pointless, I said it seems pointless.

"Seems" pointless to whom?

If you are projecting the idea that repairing a marriage "seems pointless" to non-believers then you are dehumanizing them.

If you are confessing that repairing a marriage "seems pointless" to you [without your religious beliefs] then you are making a startling revelation about your own mentality and moral core.

@fmf said
Speak for yourself, by all means. Sounds like you are indulging in a wee bit of dehumanization of people who don't share your beliefs here.

I am a non-believer and I have no belief in the afterlife; the "promise of eternal life" has no effect on how I live my life.

Do you really think that the desire to "repair" my marriage, if it needed it, would be "pointless" [1] if I thought about how I could die the next day, and [2] if I did not believe in everlasting life?

If you had a troubled relationship with someone and you knew for a fact that you would die two days later, are you saying fixing that troubled relationship (say it wouldn’t be easy to fix and you couldn’t disclose to the other person that you were going to die two days later) wouldn’t seem kind of pointless?

@rajk999 said
There is no part of the Gospel Message of Jesus Christ, that states anyone mutt believe in His resurrection.

Then you're free to not believe it.

@pb1022 said
If you had a troubled relationship with someone and you knew for a fact that you would die two days later, are you saying fixing that troubled relationship (say it wouldn’t be easy to fix and you couldn’t disclose to the other person that you were going to die two days later) wouldn’t seem kind of pointless?

No. If my wife and I were struggling in some way and I then heard that I "knew for a fact that [I] would die two days later", I believe those two days would be filled with reconciliation and celebration of our 28 years together. For you to suggest this would "seem kind of pointless" is either you attempting to dehumanize people like me [and my wife] OR you are inadvertently dehumanizing yourself.

@rajk999 said
I am no respecter of persons.

Cuz yer God! 😝

@fmf said
"Seems" pointless to whom?

If you are projecting the idea that repairing a marriage "seems pointless" to non-believers then you are dehumanizing them.

If you are confessing that repairing a marriage "seems pointless" to you [without your religious beliefs] then you are making a startling revelation about your own mentality and moral core.

Seems pointless to me.

And I can’t put myself in the mindset of an atheist so I’m obviously not speaking for them nor do I know how I would feel about it if I were one.

@pb1022 said
Seems pointless to me.

What a revealing thing to admit! As I said: Unguarded Self-Revelation of the Day™

@fmf said
No. If my wife and I were struggling in some way and I then heard that I "knew for a fact that [I] would die two days later", I believe those two days would be filled with reconciliation and celebration of our 28 years together. For you to suggest this would "seem kind of pointless" is either you attempting to dehumanize people like me [and my wife] OR you are inadvertently dehumanizing yourself.

<<I believe those two days would be filled with reconciliation and celebration of our 28 years together.>>

This is why I put the caveat in that you couldn’t disclose to the other person that you’d die two days later.

@rajk999 said
I use the same words Jesus used
- hypoctires
- fools
- Satan
- blind.

Cuz yer equal to Jesus.

@pb1022 said
And I can’t put myself in the mindset of an atheist so I’m obviously not speaking for them nor do I know how I would feel about it if I were one.

Then I suggest you keep your bizarre attempts to dehumanize them to yourself.

@rajk999 said
Jesus never said that all people are filthy sinners, a statement routinely made by church Christians here

A blatant lie.

@pb1022 said
This is why I put the caveat in that you couldn’t disclose to the other person that you’d die two days later.

You're digging yourself-hole even deeper. Your "caveat" makes no difference.

@fmf said
What a revealing thing to admit! As I said: Unguarded Self-Revelation of the Day™

Sure. This life, to me, has no meaning without God.

You know who else felt the same way? Solomon, considered by some to be the wisest man who ever lived.

Just check the last chapter of Ecclesiastes.

@pb1022 said
Sure. This life, to me, has no meaning without God.

Then you should cling to that meaning, by all means. It's a pity if it means you are robbed of your empathy for and understanding of people who don't share your beliefs, though.

@fmf said
You're digging yourself-hole even deeper. Your "caveat" makes no difference.

Sure it does.

If you couldn’t disclose to the person whom you were trying to reconcile with that you’d die in two days, I hardly think she’d be willing to spend those two days celebrating your relationship with each other.