What is the point of God today?

@pb1022 said
Because, for the believer, God is in control of when that person dies and should that person drop dead of a heart attack an hour after attempting a reconciliation, it was obviously God’s will that that happened.

So what? How does the possibility that one COULD drop dead tomorrow affect attempts to reconcile a troubled marriage

@pb1022 said
And if the believer’s wife also is a believer, they will be reunited in Heaven.

So would this, and the threat of a possible sudden and unexpected death, make it necessary [and not "pointless"] to reconcile before an hour passes?

@pb1022 said
Knowing God is in control and knowing the holiness and perfection of God is another explanation (in addition to the hope of eternal life) for the peace that passes all understanding.

But at the very core of it [the sense of peace that passes all understanding... and the help in the here and now] is the "promise of eternal life", right? That is not something you are quibbling anymore, correct?

@fmf said
Not so. Not "pointless" at all. Success expected or no success expected, the attempt to reconcile would be the goal in and of itself, and certainly not a "pointless" one.

“Certainly not pointless” to who?

@fmf said
You cannot make my answers to your questions and declarations go away by labelling them "absurd".

Not trying to make them go away.

@pb1022 said
“Certainly not pointless” to who?

"Certainly not pointless” to people in a marriage who don't believe in eternal life.

@fmf said
And what's the matter with being optimistic or even unrealistic during the last few days of a marriage? For you to insist that it would be "pointless" says more about you than it says about the people onto whom you are trying to project your jaundiced view.

Nothing wrong with that.

I was just being a realist about the hypothetical. There’s nothing wrong with optimism.

@pb1022 said
Not trying to make them go away.

Well, you haven't addressed the things that you are labelling "absurd" so to "make them go away" seems to be your purpose in using the label.

@fmf said
So would this, and the threat of a possible sudden and unexpected death, make it necessary [and not "pointless"] to reconcile before an hour passes?

To what end? To say you reconciled, give each other a big soul kiss and then conk out?

@fmf said
Well, you haven't addressed the things that you are labelling "absurd" so to "make them go away" seems to be your purpose in using the label.

I certainly did address them.

I said your belief that a badly-damaged relationship could be repaired in a day, followed by a day of celebrating was absurd and it is.

@pb1022 said
I was just being a realist about the hypothetical. There’s nothing wrong with optimism.

Well then, we can agree that you suggesting that trying to repair your marriage when you know you could drop dead of a heart at any time is "pointless" says more about you than you probably intended to reveal.

@fmf said
"Certainly not pointless” to people in a marriage who don't believe in eternal life.

Explain the point then.

You, in this hypothetical, have a badly-damaged relationship with someone and know for a fact that you’re going to die in two days.

You cannot disclose to the person with whom you have a badly-damaged relationship that you’re going to die in two days.

Tell me the point and purpose in trying to reconcile with that person. What are you trying to achieve?

@fmf said
Well then, we can agree that you suggesting that trying to repair your marriage when you know you could drop dead of a heart at any time is "pointless" says more about you than you probably intended to reveal.

I wasn’t referring to myself because I’m a believer. I was referring to those who don’t believe in God and who think this life is all there is.

@fmf said
But at the very core of it [the sense of peace that passes all understanding... and the help in the here and now] is the "promise of eternal life", right? That is not something you are quibbling anymore, correct?

I don’t think we were quibbling about that.

All I said is the hope of eternal life is not the only thing believers have as a reason to believe in God.

@pb1022 said
I said your belief that a badly-damaged relationship could be repaired in a day, followed by a day of celebrating was absurd and it is.

I talked about trying to reconcile. I didn't talk about one day of this and one day of that. I did not talk about "expectation of success". You are moving the goalposts constantly. My position about trying to reconcile, regardless of the problem with the relationship, is not "absurd" at all. It's odd that you think my position on this is.