What 'makes you' believe?

Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
I don't think that answered the question. I provided context after it. I guess I'll rephrase it.

Jesus said, "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him."

Is grace a simple offering or is it compelling?

You had originally asked "...how deep does God's grace go?"

I answered with Romans 5:20, which is essentially saying that grace abounds more than sin, and that's a good thing too because without grace we would die in our sins.

I might add also 8:38,39 as a companion reference to complete the thought.

"Is grace a simple offering or is it compelling?"

I'm not sure what that question means, or for that matter what you mean by it necessarily, but I think grace is both.

Paul speaks extensively about grace in all his epistles. Grace is everything. Without grace there would be no salvation nor would we know how to live the Christian life.

Originally posted by @rajk999
And there is the licence to sin doctrine

There is nothing in the verse of Romans 5:20 that implies a license to sin.

You sound like a really stupid Pharisee.

Originally posted by @divegeester
You have posted nothing of substance in the thread, in fact other than your copy pastes from the bible, you never post anything of substance at all. You come across to me as being a vacuous mouthy git who has latched onto Christianity as a crutch to prop up his empty friendless life.

That is “honestly” how you come across to me.

This wasn’t very nice, dive

Originally posted by @divegeester
I honestly don’t believe that you are a Christian.

So much for honestly held beliefs

You don’t think I’m a Christian, dive? That’s not a nice thing to say

Originally posted by @divegeester
He is either lying about where he lives, lying about having to care for a parent, lying about having paid employment, or lying about all three.

I’m not lying about any of it, dive.

But why is it any of your business?

Originally posted by @divegeester
You done being a prick for today yet?

That wasn’t nice, dive

Originally posted by @romans1009
This wasn’t very nice, dive

When I read that, I heard it in my head in the voice of Hal 9000 in 2001 Space Odyssey.

Originally posted by @divegeester
You’re ignorant and crass Romans1009

Not nice, dive.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Get some sleep, no looking a Christian porn, light straight out.

I don’t look at porn, dive. Why did you say I do?

Originally posted by @divegeester
All I’m interested in is your online dishonesty and your religious pomp and fakery. You appear to me to be a distasteful reflection of dj2becker and certainly a very poor example of the Christian faith in terms of integrity.

That wasn’t very nice, dive

Originally posted by @divegeester
Was I talking to you porn boy?

Why did you call me that, dive? I don’t look at porn. Do you?

Originally posted by @romans1009

Originally posted by @divegeester
Get some sleep, no looking a Christian porn, light straight out.

I don’t look at porn, dive. Why did you say I do?

What is Christian porn? Like, a heterosexual couple in pajamas, sleeping back to back? Sounds kinda boring.

Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
What is Christian porn? Like, a heterosexual couple in pajamas, sleeping back to back? Sounds kinda boring.

LOL!

Originally posted by @tom-wolsey
When I read that, I heard it in my head in the voice of Hal 9000 in 2001 Space Odyssey.

That was the intended effect lol. If only dive’s name were Dave, it’d be perfect