25 Jun 10
Originally posted by avalanchethecatto avalanchthecat
On precisely what grounds do you make this claim that evolutionary science and the study of hominid origins is false?
Darwinism is based on the premise, that evertything in existance came from nothing, and if it came from nothing, it was accidently very intelligent as well.
Thats the very short answer to why it is false, because its impossable.
vishva
25 Jun 10
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Originally posted by vishvahetuWell we're sat here having this conversation so it can't be that impossible.
to avalanchthecat
Darwinism is based on the premise, that evertything in existance came from nothing, and if it came from nothing, it was accidently very intelligent as well.
Thats the very short answer to why it is false, because its impossable.
vishva
But tell me, as you've quite reluctantly declined to so far, how do you think we got here?
25 Jun 10
Originally posted by Proper Knobto Proper Knob
Well we're sat here having this conversation so it can't be that impossible.
But tell me, as you've quite reluctantly declined to so far, how do you think we got here?
everything is a result of the inconcievable, mystical creative potency of god creator!
vishva
25 Jun 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuDarwinism is impossible, yet everything is the result of the inconcievable. That sounds like a contradiction if ever there was one.
to Proper Knob
everything is a result of the inconcievable, mystical creative potency of god creator!
vishva
I don't think you know what you're talking about, you haven't put forth a coherent thought in this thread yet. In answer to my question all you've done is spout some pseudo-religious babble at me.
Come on buddy try again.
25 Jun 10
Originally posted by Proper Knobto Proper Knob
Darwinism is impossible, yet everything is the result of the inconcievable. That sounds like a contradiction if ever there was one.
I don't think you know what you're talking about, you haven't put forth a coherent thought in this thread yet. In answer to my question all you've done is spout some pseudo-religious babble at me.
Come on buddy try again.
OK, this doesnt have to be a long drawn out debate, because there are 2 assumptions, (1) theres no god creating anything, and everything in the universe just appeared out of thin air! ( thats your take on things)
2,.everything is well desighned and created by a creative power, that some people call god, (thats my take on things)
If a person cannot appreciate a spiritual energy behind everthing in existance, which allows for growth, reproduction, life, energy systems and a diverse and wonderfull display of creative potency, then they are mad, and have lost all sense of deliberation, and do not qualify to be able to put forward any explanation worth listening to.
So you see, you are not qualified to speak, because you have lost your mind, and all sensability, sorry to be so frank, but thats the glaring truth, and with a perception like that, you must be very unhappy.
vishva
25 Jun 10
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Originally posted by vishvahetuBut you've failed to put forth any view.
to Proper Knob
OK, this doesnt have to be a long drawn out debate, because there are 2 assumptions, (1) theres no god creating anything, and everything in the universe just appeared out of thin air! ( thats your take on things)
2,.everything is well desighned and created by a creative power, that some people call god, (thats my take on things)
...[text shortened]... ut thats the glaring truth, and with a perception like that, you must be very unhappy.
vishva
I asked you, numerous times, if we didn't evolve from apes how did we get here?
Did we just suddenly appear here at some point? If so, how long ago?
They're only simple questions, and you do seem to have all the answers. You've already swepped aside 150yrs of evolutionary biology, not to mention anthropology, archeaology, paleontology, molecular biology and many other scientific fields at one fell swoop.
25 Jun 10
Originally posted by Proper Knobto Proper knob
But you've failed to put forth any view.
I asked you, numerous times, if we didn't evolve from apes how did we get here?
Did we just suddenly appear here at some point? If so, how long ago?
They're only simple questions, and you do seem to have all the answers. You've already swepped aside 150yrs of evolutionary biology, not to mention anthrop ...[text shortened]... eaology, paleontology, molecular biology and many other scientific fields at one fell swoop.
I answered before, and i will say it again, everything in existance is supported and created by a spiritual energy that is intelligent and creative.
This energy is eternal, without beginning or end, and some people choose to call this god.
On the other hand, the christians call this creative power, father or jesus, but i dont accept that silly assumption.
If you are a athiest or into darwinism, then what you are saying is, that there is no creative power behind everything in existence, and it just appeared out of thin air,
and to me this is a rediculious assumption, ( is that what you are saying) please clarify
Now this creative power has no source but its self, thats why it is inconcievable, and it must be there for everything to be existing, and if you have another idea about this, then please entertain me with the facts please.
vishva
25 Jun 10
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Originally posted by vishvahetuI understand what you are saying, i have all along, but it doesn't answer my original question which i have asked four or five times now, and which i shall repeat one last time.
to Proper knob
I answered before, and i will say it again, everything in existance is supported and created by a spiritual energy that is intelligent and creative.
This energy is eternal, without beginning or end, and some people choose to call this god.
On the other hand, the christians call this creative power, father or jesus, but i dont accep ...[text shortened]... d if you have another idea about this, then please entertain me with the facts please.
vishva
If you don't accept evolutionary theory, which i do, that we descended from apes.
Where do we come from? How were we made? Did this energy just create two of us? Or more? We had to start somewhere, we've not been here all along, we came from somewhere? Where?????
I understand that some of my Christian brothers on this forum think God made Adam & Eve 6,000yrs ago and plonked them somewhere in the Garden of Eden. Some other Christians accept evolution, but think God started the process.
I want to know what you think. I can't really put it any clearer than that. If you don't know then just say so.
25 Jun 10
Originally posted by Proper Knobto Proper knob
I understand what you are saying, i have all along, but it doesn't answer my original question which i have asked four or five times now, and which i shall repeat one last time.
If you don't accept evolutionary theory, which i do, that we descended from apes.
Where do we come from? How were we made? Did this energy just create two of us? Or more? W ...[text shortened]... you think. I can't really put it any clearer than that. If you don't know then just say so.
i have put up a post, and i said the ways of creation are inconceivable, and the populating of the planet shall remain a mystery to all of us for ever, but because we dont know how, it doest change the fact that there is a supreme spiritual creative power behind everything.
vishva
Originally posted by vishvahetuthe populating of the planet shall remain a mystery to all of us for ever
to Proper knob
i have put up a post, and i said the ways of creation are inconceivable, and the populating of the planet shall remain a mystery to all of us for ever, but because we dont know how, it doest change the fact that there is a supreme spiritual creative power behind everything.
vishva
No it won't, but it will remain a mystery to you forerver as you've got your head stuck so far up your own arse you don't know what day of the week it is. Arrogant fool.
Enjoy your weekend.
26 Jun 10
Originally posted by Proper KnobMr proper knob
[b]the populating of the planet shall remain a mystery to all of us for ever
No it won't, but it will remain a mystery to you forerver as you've got your head stuck so far up your own arse you don't know what day of the week it is. Arrogant fool.
Enjoy your weekend.[/b]
Look, i say it the way i see it, know it, percieve it.....the Darwin way would have you believe that everything started from nothing, without a spiritual cause, but i am saying there is a spiritual cause behind what we percieve as the world.
Iam sorry that the education system has screwed you, by teaching you about the false evolution therory, but your not alone, there must be millions of poor kids thinking we came from monkeys as well.
Your free at anytime to change your mind about that, because the Darwiniun therory teaches that our life has no meaning because we are all just accidents that randomly just happened, and apparently millions of yrs ago a lightning bolt struck a puddle of mud, and our existance accidently started with a single celled creature.
I cant believe that this therory is widley accepted, its beyond comprehension.
Hey if it matters to you, i dont accept the adam & eve nonsense and the bible.
I am not arrogant, but my direct approach might make me seem so, and i descided to be direct like that, because i am very impatient with all the religious freaks. ( christians and muslims aaaah) so sorry to upset you.
vishva