26 Jun 10
Originally posted by ua41to ua41
I don't see what's so wrong with god casting the lightning bolt into the primordial soup and deriving us from random molecules that decided to respond to things around them and eventually apes. If anything that's a badass story.
Sorry not really casting my voice on anything
yea, that could work, but you get those evolution people, who want to deny that there is a spiritual power behind the workings of that, and that just wouldnt work.
But good point, it could very well be the case huh!
And i must admit, that i dont know one way or the other, if thats whats actually happening
vishva
26 Jun 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuStrawman
to ua41
yea, that could work, but you get those evolution people, who want to deny that there is a spiritual power behind the workings of that, and that just wouldnt work.
But good point, it could very well be the case huh!
And i must admit, that i dont know one way or the other, if thats whats actually happening
vishva
26 Jun 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuFirstly, Darwins theory of evolution of natural selection makes no claim on the origins of life, that is another branch of science called abiogenesis. Evolution is a simple process which explains the diversification of life we see on this planet. It is not some grand philosophical theory on the meaning of life, and i'll repeat again, it makes no claim to how life first started on this planet.
Mr proper knob
Look, i say it the way i see it, know it, percieve it.....the Darwin way would have you believe that everything started from nothing, without a spiritual cause, but i am saying there is a spiritual cause behind what we percieve as the world.
Iam sorry that the education system has screwed you, by teaching you about the false evolution ...[text shortened]... ith all the religious freaks. ( christians and muslims aaaah) so sorry to upset you.
vishva
The theory of evolution is widely accepted because it is backed up by 150yrs of painstaking scientific research from numerous scientific fields. With the unlocking of the DNA code and the subsequent unlocking of the human genome we now all life on this planet is related and that everything single living thing can be traced back to a single ancestor, and that we have descended from apes. Our closest living relative is the chimpanzee, with which we shared a common ancestor about 7 million years.
The Church of England and the Roman Catholic Church both accept the theory of evolution. So to state that evolution can't be melded with spirituality is again more ignorance from you.
For someone who likes to call other peoples views 'gobbledygook' just because they don't agree with yours, you have displayed a shockingly ignorant level of knowledge with regard to evolution. May i suggest a few of books for you to read to bring you into the 21st Century, either that or go take some remedial science classes at your local college.
Why Evolution is True by Jerry Coyne.
The Peopling of the World by Stephen Oppenheimer.
Finding Darwin's God - A Scientists Search for Common Ground between God and Evolution by Kenneth Miller.
26 Jun 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuDarwinian Theory makes no claims whatsoever about how life began. And furthermore, just because you don't understand how something happened does not make it impossible. This statement is particularly relevant if you are almost entirely unschooled in the subject under discussion.
to avalanchthecat
Darwinism is based on the premise, that evertything in existance came from nothing, and if it came from nothing, it was accidently very intelligent as well.
Thats the very short answer to why it is false, because its impossable.
vishva
26 Jun 10
Originally posted by vishvahetuAnd I am sorry that the education system has screwed you by not teaching you anything very much. Time and again you show that you know very little about either Christianity or science that you keep ranting about.
Iam sorry that the education system has screwed you, by teaching you about the false evolution therory, but your not alone, there must be millions of poor kids thinking we came from monkeys as well.
I am not arrogant, but my direct approach might make me seem so, and i descided to be direct like that, because i am very impatient with all the religious freaks. ( christians and muslims aaaah) so sorry to upset you.
You seem to be impatient will everyone. But then you seem to think everyone is a freak but you.
I am not sure if you realize this, but more than half the posters in this forum are atheists.
26 Jun 10
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Originally posted by avalanchethecatyou may like to differentiate between abiogenesis and Darwinian evolutionary theory, but in spiritual terms they amount to the same thing, a completely materialistic view of the emergence and diversity of life.
Darwinian Theory makes no claims whatsoever about how life began. And furthermore, just because you don't understand how something happened does not make it impossible. This statement is particularly relevant if you are almost entirely unschooled in the subject under discussion.
26 Jun 10
Originally posted by robbie carrobieThat may very well be the case, but they are not the same thing.
you may like to differentiate between abiogenesis and Darwinian evolutionary theory, but in spiritual terms they amount to the same thing, a completely materialistic view of the emergence and diversity of life.
26 Jun 10
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieAnd so does all of science. Or can you name a branch of science that is not a completely materialistic view of some part of the universe?
you may like to differentiate between abiogenesis and Darwinian evolutionary theory, but in spiritual terms they amount to the same thing, a completely materialistic view of the emergence and diversity of life.
Psychology perhaps? Or is that 'a science' but not 'a branch of science'?
26 Jun 10
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Originally posted by chessartist===============================
Were does the prehistoric man come into god's plan? do you think god has let man develope and grow into what we are today or do you think went people find these bones they're just a combination of man and animal bones put to together to form what we think is early man?
Were does the prehistoric man come into god's plan? do you think god has let man develope and grow into what we are today or do you think went people find these bones they're just a combination of man and animal bones put to together to form what we think is early man?
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I wonder if what they are looking at is sometimes humans degenerating rather than humans evolving.
I mean possibly some of these bones reveal disease and degradation setting in rather than development and evolution.
26 Jun 10
Originally posted by galveston75Almost true.
The only reason that humans are living longer now is because of science and meds, not because of evolution...
We undoubtedly live longer because we can fight off bacteria with modern medicine and surgical techniques. A Healthy diet also plays apart.
There is a gene (a variant of FOXO3A) which was shown to have a high frequency in Japanese people who live over 100. Japan has more people who live over a hundred than any other country in the world.