28 Dec 16
Originally posted by sonshipThats cool. Talk a pile of gibberish, contrary to the Bible, then say God has revealed it to you, and further anyone who does not believe the same thing is of the Devil and a heretic.Are you afraid to quote the whole verse? Here it is:
Of course not. But you know your attention span is not long, especially when careful Bible teaching is involved. Then you brag about how you didn't read something.
Nope. i am not afraid to quote even the entire chapter.
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1Ti 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator betw ...[text shortened]... it" He is the head of a new humanity of men and women mingled with God. That IS the church.[/b]
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Originally posted by Rajk999You're full of gibberish which you cannot defend.
Thats cool. Talk a pile of gibberish, contrary to the Bible, then say God has revealed it to you, and further anyone who does not believe the same thing is of the Devil and a heretic.
And what the enemy of God hates - the incarnation and the salvation of God being united with man, you assist him in fighting against.
And I would say you are a heretic.
But there is hope. There is still hope for you.
I rejoice in that.
Originally posted by sonshipYou continue to make unbiblical statements. This .. ".. the enemy of God hates - the incarnation and the salvation of God being united with man,, is not in the Bible. It is a fabrication of your church or your pastor.
You're full of gibberish which you cannot defend.
And what the enemy of God hates - the incarnation and the salvation of God being united with man, you assist him in fighting against.
And I would say you are a heretic.
But there is hope. There is still hope for you.
I rejoice in that.
Here is what is in the Bible about the enemy of God:
- those who preach and encourage sin and evil to flourish
- those who preach that the commandments are not required to be followed
- those who continue to live in sin and crucify the son of God afresh.
A friend of God is one who follows the commandments of Christ.
You and your doctrine fit the bill perfectly of an enemy of God.
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Originally posted by Rajk999
You continue to make unbiblical statements. This .. ".. the enemy of God hates - the incarnation and the salvation of God being united with man,, is not in the Bible. It is a fabrication of your church or your pastor.
Why do you think Satan instigated Herod to go kill all the children in Bethlehem from two years old and under ?
If not that this One was God as a man, what else ?
" But you, O Bethlehem Ephrathah, ... From you there will come forth to Me He who is to be Ruler in Israel;
And His goings forth are from ancient times, From the days of eternity." (Micah 5:2)
God stepped out of eternity to become a man in time. And Satan hated this and sought to kill any child that might be in Bethlehem via Herod.
When "the Word became flesh" the darkness (certainly Satan's darkness) could not overcome the light of the Word being made flesh.
"In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome it." (John 1:4,5)
That Word is God (John 1:1)
Certainly he who has the authority of darkness has always hated God, yet more that God was incarnate.
And he opposes that God could dispense Himself into man as the church - "the Body of Christ".
Satan opposes the incarnation and the mingling of God and man.
God cannot be stopped from accomplishing either.
28 Dec 16
Originally posted by sonshipI repeat. .. Where is this in the Bible :You continue to make unbiblical statements. This .. ".. the enemy of God hates - the incarnation and the salvation of God being united with man,, is not in the Bible. It is a fabrication of your church or your pastor.
Why do you think Satan instigated Herod to go kill all the children in Bethlehem from two years old and under ?
If not ...[text shortened]... e incarnation and the mingling of God and man.
God cannot be stopped from accomplishing either.
the enemy of God hates - the incarnation and the salvation of God being united with man,
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Originally posted by Rajk999I just showed you.
What do you think it means that the darkness could not overcome it ?
Why WOULD the darkness want to overcome it? Hatred of the Word coming to give life and light to man is of course the reason.
Look at it again:
"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. (v1)
He was in the beginning with God. (v.2)
All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him not one thing came into being which has come into being. (v.3)
In Him was life, and the life was the light of men. (v.4)
And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome it. "(v.5)
He is talking about the Word which is Christ.
He is talking about Christ coming to be divine life and light to men.
"In Him was life, and the life was the light of men."
You're blind if you cannot see that John is speaking of the Word becoming eternal life within men bringing into them "light". And this light the darkness cannot overcome. He tries because he HATES the Word, he hates the divine life, he hates the light of men.
The light of men is God being life to men. How can God be life to men without God coming into men to be joined with men ?
Oh, "the darkness" surely refers to the Devil as him who has the authority of darkness.
"Giving thanks to the Father, who has qualified you for a share of the allotted portion of the saints in the light;
Who delivered us out of the authority of darkness [edited] and transferred us into the kingdom of the Son of His love,
Through whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins." (Col. 1: 12-14)
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou shut the door of the kingdom to men. You will not enter in yourself and neither will you allow those who would enter to enter.
Agreed, its almost like a kind of shamanism.
" But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrits! For you close off the kingdom of the heavens in the face of men; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to enter." (Matt. 23:13)
By denying that Christ brings God into men you shut the door of the kingdom of the heavens in the face of men, or try your best to. You won't enter yourself. You work to keep others out.
And it doesn't matter how much you speak of the kingdom because in reality you are in rebellion against the King.
You should just be honest and say "We will not have this man to reign over us." (Luke 9:14)
28 Dec 16
Originally posted by sonshipWe are not the ones who had not hid our light underneath a basket,. oh no, we have gone to the people with the good news of Gods Kingdom, not with esoteric airy fairy messages of mingling!
You shut the door of the kingdom to men. You will not enter in yourself and neither will you allow those who would enter to enter.
[quote] [b] " But woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrits! For you close off the kingdom of the heavens in the face of men; for you do not enter in yourselves, nor do you allow those who are entering to enter." (Matt. 23: ...[text shortened]... ing.
You should just be honest and say [b] "We will not have this man to reign over us." [/b]
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieWhat is "He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit" if not a mingling of the human spirit with the Spirit of God ?
We are not the ones who had not hid our light underneath a basket,. oh no, we have gone to the people with the good news of Gods Kingdom, not with esoteric airy fairy messages of mingling!
The opposite would be not mingled.
To be joined to the Lord is to have the human spirit mingled with the Spirit Who is God Himself.
However, preaching from door to door is good.
Preaching heresy from door to door is not.
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28 Dec 16
Satan hates the joining of God with man.
The kingdom of darkness with all of its fallen angels and demons hates the mingling of God and man.
This is the battle over the planet. That is to allow God to dispense Himself into His chosen and redeemed people so to mingle God and man.
What?? What is this if not a mingling ?
" In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in me, and I in you." (John 14:20)
If that is not mingling of God and man, THEN WHAT IS IT ??
Originally posted by sonshipYou have insulted a work carried out under Holy spirit, directed by Christ the head of the Christian congregation, the preaching and teaching of the Good News of Gods Kingdom! For that there will be NO forgiveness.
What is [b]"He who is joined to the Lord is one spirit" if not a mingling of the human spirit with the Spirit of God ?
The opposite would be not mingled.
To be joined to the Lord is to have the human spirit mingled with the Spirit Who is God Himself.
However, preaching from door to door is good.
Preaching heresy from door to door is not.[/b]
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Originally posted by robbie carrobieYou don't even believe the Holy Spirit can be insulted.
You have insulted a work carried out under Holy spirit, directed by Christ the head of the Christian congregation, the preaching and teaching of the Good News of Gods Kingdom! For that there will be NO forgiveness.
You don't believe that the Holy Spirit is the Lord Jesus.
Thank God, the New Testament teaches us the truth -
"And the Lord is the Spirit" (2 Cor. 3:17)
"the last Adam became a life giving Spirit" (1 Cor. 15:45a)
No, no, no Robbie, I do not insult the work of your so-called Old Testament energy which you deny is God Himself.
You cannot out of one side of your mouth deny the Holy Spirit is a Person and out of the other side of your mouth try to scare me that I have blasphemed the Holy Spirit.
28 Dec 16
Originally posted by sonship
You don't even believe the Holy Spirit can be insulted.
You don't believe that the Holy Spirit is the Lord Jesus.
Thank God, the New Testament teaches us the truth -
[b] "And the Lord is the Spirit" (2 Cor. 3:17)
"the last Adam became a life giving Spirit" (1 Cor. 15:45a)
No, no, no Robbie, I do ...[text shortened]... and out of the other side of your mouth try to scare me that I have blasphemed the Holy Spirit.[/b]Yes you have blasphemed against the Holy Spirit! The shame of it!
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John 14:20 is a mingling. You can't deny it. You cannot distract from this by changing the subject.
In that day the disciples shall know that He is in the Father. But wait a minute. The disciples will be in the Son.
So the Son is in the Father and the disciples are in the Son.
But there is more. The Son is in the disciples too !
The Son is in the Father.
The disciples are in the Son.
And the Son is in the disciples.
What is that if that is not the mingling of God and man ?
Rather than fight against it, believing men and women should stand upon it.
" In that day you will know that I am in My Father, and you in Me and I in you." (John 14:20)