Who is a Christian?

Originally posted by KellyJay
That was not what he said. Are you going to answer my post to you?

I asked a few posts up, can you please ask again.

Originally posted by chaney3
I asked a few posts up, can you please ask again.

Top of page 14. I'm not at my computer or I'd copy and paste for you.

Originally posted by KellyJay
I gave you an answer and you were belittling, anyone who is following the Lord and the
Lord gives His Spirit too. So that means that there are those Christians who God
acknowledges with His Spirit, these are God made Christians. Then there are those who
do not have God's Spirit these don't belong to God since they lack God's Spirit, they may
call th ...[text shortened]... ly thing
they have going for them is their mouth and whatever they are relying on besides God.

This post makes no sense.
Sorry KellyJay.

Originally posted by KellyJay
What you just said isn't scriptural if Jesus wasn't a man than He could not have been tempted like us! So do you deny Jesus the Son of Man was a man?

Do you deny Jesus was the Word of God made flesh? Do you deny Jesus is the only begotten of God?

Do you believe the Spirit of God made Mary pregnant or do you think Joseph did it?

The post to which I replied said:
FULLY MAN
FULLY GOD.
Is there any such statement in the Bible?
No there is not.

Jesus was a man and tempted like a man but he was no ordinary man, but a combination of man and God.
That should answer your other rather foolish questions about Joseph.

Originally posted by chaney3
I think all he is saying is that there's zero proof that Jesus is God.

Correct .. no proof, especially from the mouth of Jesus himself, the sole authority on who He was.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Correct .. no proof, especially from the mouth of Jesus himself, the sole authority on who He was.

You do realize that millions of people believe that Jesus is God?

Originally posted by robbie carrobie
does the Bible say that he was created or does it not? the answer is clearly yes, It also says that all things were created through Jesus, does it not. Why this should cause confusion I have no idea. Jesus was the first entity created by God, all other things were created through him. This makes prefect logical sense.

It does not say that Jesus was created by God, it says that Jesus was the first born.

And yes, Jesus was born into the world. It's celebrated on December 25th.

And yes, I know, it's all a pagan holiday Robbie, thanks for that.

I have no idea how we could be created by Jesus but not have him be our God.

Even Thomas knelt before Jesus and declared him his Lord and God.

Originally posted by chaney3
You do realize that millions of people believe that Jesus is God?

Those same millions also believe that they have eternal life and they can sin all they please. So .. the Bible warns that broad is the way that leads to destruction.

Originally posted by Rajk999
Those same millions also believe that they have eternal life and they can sin all they please. So .. the Bible warns that broad is the way that leads to destruction.

Dive is one of them.
Thank you.

Originally posted by Rajk999
The post to which I replied said:
FULLY MAN
FULLY GOD.
Is there any such statement in the Bible?
No there is not.

Jesus was a man and tempted like a man but he was no ordinary man, but a combination of man and God.
That should answer your other rather foolish questions about Joseph.

Can anyone be tempted like a man without man's limitations, weaknesses, desires, and so on? You don't think Jesus lived as a man yet without sin? You think Jesus had to cheat by coming here as something more.

Originally posted by chaney3
Rajk999, can you provide your opinion as to why some Christians believe Jesus is God.

What happened?

chaney3,

Here are a couple of more scriptures as to who Jesus is.

Titus 1:1
1 Paul, a servant of God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
Both instances here is the greek are represented by 'theou' for God.

A little further down in verse 3...

Titus 1:3
3 But hath in due times manifested his word through preaching, which is committed unto me according to the commandment of God our Saviour

Who is the savior? God is,Jesus is! If you look in the greek, your will find God our savior in this instance represented by 'theou' for God our savior.

John 1:1
1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

Jesus is the Word, in the greek this translation of God is... you guessed it 'theou', which means God.

I get there is a lot of voices vying for your attention on this matter and it can be confusing, I would suggest you do some research for yourself rather than being spoon fed (no offense intended), don't even take my word for it, do some digging. God will reveal himself to you right where you are if you seek him.

You can use the following resources if you want which are helpful in digging.

Biblehub, http://biblehub.com/
BibleGateway, https://www.biblegateway.com/
Scripture for All, http://scripture4all.org/ , this is good for greek translation and even has a free desktop app you can download.

Some others...

Apolegetics Index, http://www.apologeticsindex.org/
Carm, carm.org

Hope this helps.

Originally posted by whodey
It does not say that Jesus was created by God, it says that Jesus was the first born.

And yes, Jesus was born into the world. It's celebrated on December 25th.

And yes, I know, it's all a pagan holiday Robbie, thanks for that.

I have no idea how we could be created by Jesus but not have him be our God.

Even Thomas knelt before Jesus and declared him his Lord and God.

You get your doctrine from Thomas?
Cool .. would Thomas give you eternal life as well?
How about what Christ said. Does that count?

Originally posted by whodey
It does not say that Jesus was created by God, it says that Jesus was the first born.

And yes, Jesus was born into the world. It's celebrated on December 25th.

And yes, I know, it's all a pagan holiday Robbie, thanks for that.

I have no idea how we could be created by Jesus but not have him be our God.

Even Thomas knelt before Jesus and declared him his Lord and God.

Why then is the term first born used? and it states that he was the firstborn of all creation, that is a part of creation. Rather difficult to be part of creation and not be created, Yah think! You noobs don't know anything about the Bible, you are far to busy getting high on poltics, dissin Obama or slagging off Hillary.

Originally posted by KellyJay
Can anyone be tempted like a man without man's limitations, weaknesses, desires, and so on? You don't think Jesus lived as a man yet without sin? You think Jesus had to cheat by coming here as something more.

FULLY MAN AND FULLY GOD.

Is that somewhere in the Bible?

Guess not.

Originally posted by leunammi
chaney3,

Here are a couple of more scriptures as to who Jesus is.

Titus 1:1
1 Paul, a servant of [b]God, and an apostle of Jesus Christ, according to the faith of God's elect, and the acknowledging of the truth which is after godliness;
Both instances here is the greek are represented by 'theou' for God.

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Apolegetics Index, http://www.apologeticsindex.org/
Carm, carm.org

Hope this helps.[/b]

Did Jesus ever say He is God?
No.