Why Adam's Rib Became Eve

@secondson said
I don't expect you to understand the difference between Christianity and religion.

Christianity is an example of a religion. Trying to define "Christianity" and "religion" in a way that allows you [at least in your own mind] to assert that Christianity is not a religion, is little more than a variant of the No True Scotsman logical fallacy.

@fmf said
I take sonship at his word that he believes he is "becoming like Jesus".

All "born again" Christians have the potential to be more like Jesus as that is the what the scriptures teach. Unfortunately that is not always the case for all Christians, because being "conformed to the image of Christ" requires the participation of the Christian in that process, and not all Christians are actively involved with God to that degree.

You can take sonship at his word that he not only "believes" he's becoming more and more like Jesus, but that in fact he is.

Actually, sonship is a decent person, but he's far from perfect.

Perfection is on its way.

@fmf said
I wouldn't describe the Jesus story as a "lie".

You're contradicting yourself. You said Jesus was stone dead, but the record states emphatically He rose from the dead.

You, in truth, believe the story is a lie. Don't soft pedal it.

@secondson said
You can take sonship at his word that he not only "believes" he's becoming more and more like Jesus, but that in fact he is.

"In fact he is"?

How do you discern this "fact"?

@secondson said
You're contradicting yourself. You said Jesus was stone dead, but the record states emphatically He rose from the dead.

I don't think the people who assert that he rose from the dead are deliberately saying something untrue, so I don't think they are lying and I don't perceive the Jesus story as a "lie".

@secondson said
You, in truth, believe the story is a lie. Don't soft pedal it.

It's only a "lie" if the person telling the story knows or believes the story is untrue. For my part, I simply don't believe it. I am not accusing anyone of telling a "lie".

@fmf said
Of course, Christianity is a religion.

It is not.

I've explained to you numerous times in the past what religion and Christianity are and how they are different, but you're too religiously fixated on the excepted definition to think outside the box to hear anything that might upset your status quo.

@fmf said
It's only a "lie" if the person telling the story knows or believes the story is untrue. For my part, I simply don't believe it. I am not accusing anyone of telling a "lie".

You believe the story is untrue, therefore you believe it is a lie.

@secondson said
Actually, sonship is a decent person, but he's far from perfect.

Most people are "decent"; there's surely more to this than being "decent". Can I see what "becoming like Jesus" means in reality by observing and interacting with sonship over the last decade?

@fmf said
"In fact he is"?

How do you discern this "fact"?

Because I know something you don't. That's how.

@secondson said
You believe the story is untrue, therefore you believe it is a lie.

No. It's only a lie if the people telling it know that it isn't true.

@secondson said
It is not.

I've explained to you numerous times in the past what religion and Christianity are and how they are different, but you're too religiously fixated on the excepted definition to think outside the box to hear anything that might upset your status quo.

Defining "Christianity" and "religion" in a way that enables you to assert that Christianity is not a religion is mere word play. And the fact you try to describe this as thinking outside the box does not disguise the fact that you are playing with words for self-serving ideological reasons.

@fmf said
Can I see what "becoming like Jesus" means in reality by observing and interacting with sonship over the last decade?

Not a chance.

Unless of course you became born again and the "eyes of your understanding" were opened.

@secondson said
I've explained to you numerous times in the past what religion and Christianity are and how they are different, but you're too religiously fixated on the excepted definition to think outside the box to hear anything that might upset your status quo.

The fact that all religions are different from each other does not mean the adherents of each of them can claim that those differences make them not-a-religion and the others religions.

@fmf said
Defining "Christianity" and "religion" in a way that enables you to assert that Christianity is not a religion is mere word play. And the fact you try to describe this as thinking outside the box does not disguise the fact that you are playing with words for self-serving ideological reasons.

Like the way you do?