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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
I still dont see why your life has any more meaning than squirrely the red squirrel , who gathers nuts, builds a nest, finds a mate and retires from squirreling when all his kids grow up.
Again, why does it matter if my life has more meaning than that of a red squirrel?

Also, meaning to who?

My life means a lot more to me than the life of a red squirrels does.
The squirrel might think differently.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
While i do not for a single moment intend to justify such self righteousness on the part of whoever stated that their life has more meaning than someone else because they do not profess belief in the divine its hard for me to see how life without God has any more meaning than squirrelly the red squirrel, who gathers nuts, finds a mate, builds a nest, ...[text shortened]... s children and then retires from squirreling. Perhaps someone can explain why this has meaning?
' has children' - you have the answer there!

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Originally posted by googlefudge
Again, why does it matter if my life has more meaning than that of a red squirrel?

Also, meaning to who?

My life means a lot more to me than the life of a red squirrels does.
The squirrel might think differently.
Perhaps it really does have no more meaning than squirrelly the red squirrel.

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Originally posted by biffo konker
' has children' - you have the answer there!
ok so the meaning is to procreate and have children, like squirrelly the red squirrel?

Hey Biffo i want you for my clan, please join the Zen Masters, your Karma is good and you write cool Haiku, dont make me beg you, cause i will.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
Perhaps it really does have no more meaning than squirrelly the red squirrel.
Well to me, my life has more meaning that a squirrels does.

But I come back again to why does it matter?

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Originally posted by googlefudge
Well to me, my life has more meaning that a squirrels does.

But I come back again to why does it matter?
And yet you cannot demonstrate why it has more meaning. Its just interesting thats all.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
And yet you cannot demonstrate why it has more meaning. Its just interesting thats all.
I can't speak for googlefudge, but the way I see it there's no more meaning to my life
(objectively speaking) than that of your red squirrel. Does that disturb you?

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Originally posted by C Hess
I can't speak for googlefudge, but the way I see it there's no more meaning to my life
(objectively speaking) than that of your red squirell. Does that disturb you?
No not at all, in the system which we find ourselves life is terribly transient, its almost like hello and goodbye.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
ok so the meaning is to procreate and have children, like squirrelly the red squirrel?

Hey Biffo i want you for my clan, please join the Zen Masters, your Karma is good and you write cool Haiku, dont make me beg you, cause i will.
Yes.And it is the same for all animals and plants.

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Originally posted by robbie carrobie
And yet you cannot demonstrate why it has more meaning. Its just interesting thats all.
First off, Meaning is a product of minds, and meaning only has relevance to minds.

To my mind, my life has more meaning than a squirrels does. Because I imbue my
life with more meaning than I imbue the life of a squirrel with.

Whether the squirrel is capable of imbuing it's life with meaning, from it's perspective,
is a question I don't know the answer to. I've never experienced being a squirrel.
I'm guessing not, but I could be wrong.


But again, WHY DOES IT MATTER?

You asked the question, you must have had a reason why you asked it.

What difference does it make?

And to whom does it make a difference?

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Originally posted by biffo konker
Yes.And it is the same for all animals and plants.
no more meaning than a plant! 😲 If it is so then i want to have the same meaning as a mango tree!

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Life is a game/how you play it you must choose/you can never win/your life you sure will loose.

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Originally posted by biffo konker
Yes.And it is the same for all animals and plants.
Plants have no minds [at least, none of the plants we know have minds] and
thus cannot give anything meaning.

Plants can mean things to beings with minds, but they have no meanings themselves.

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Originally posted by googlefudge
First off, Meaning is a product of minds, and meaning only has relevance to minds.

To my mind, my life has more meaning than a squirrels does. Because I imbue my
life with more meaning than I imbue the life of a squirrel with.

Whether the squirrel is capable of imbuing it's life with meaning, from it's perspective,
is a question I don't know th ...[text shortened]... son why you asked it.

What difference does it make?

And to whom does it make a difference?
but imagine you could jump up trees like spiderman, leap from branch to branch, have pretty girls feeding you nuts in the park saying how cute you are etc thats pretty sweet.

Gee i dunno googly one if it does have more meaning, the squirrel may see it differently and then where are we at. why does it matter? because its good to think about life and meaning i suppose.

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Squirrels' lives have meaning, robbie. Squirrels care about their kids. They take pride in the nuts they collect.

And you can't take that away from them. *crying, angry smiley*

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