Originally posted by apathistNo, I believe not one of us is worthy on our own. We admit our sins, we go to God in Jesus
But that is a view from a member of a different sect that the one I responded to, yes? So you muddy the waters here on purpose.
Christ for forgiveness and due to Him we are forgiven. So expressing my views on this are
not spoken to muddy the waters. I'm sure you'll get other views on the matter, and if any
of them think they can earn entrance into God's kingdom on their abilities and their own
righteousness than it isn't by Jesus grace and mercy they think that makes them right with
God, but their own efforts. I believe God forgives us then works in us to do His will the
works He has for us to do. I do not believe we earn God's forgiveness by doing good
works so we can claim we did what was required thereby earning by our works God's favor.
Originally posted by KellyJayAt what age are do we start being sinners?
No, I believe not one of us is worthy on our own. We admit our sins, we go to God in Jesus
Christ for forgiveness and due to Him we are forgiven. So expressing my views on this are
not spoken to muddy the waters. I'm sure you'll get other views on the matter, and if any
of them think they can earn entrance into God's kingdom on their abilities and their ...[text shortened]... g good
works so we can claim we did what was required thereby earning by our works God's favor.
Originally posted by robbie carrobieLiving forever is impossible for humans, bible or no bible. Your brain could record MAYBE a thousand years of life but after that you would have to recycle your memory cells and so you would go through the ages with only the last thousand years or so in your memory, say 10,000 years later you are still alive but you can't remember the first 90% of your life. So you have only 10% of your life in your brain. At best.
would you be interested in living forever and an everlasting supply of mice?
And when the religious set thinks forever, what, a million years? A billion? A trillion years? How stupid do you have to be to even entertain that kind of life?
You figure your god is going to give you some kind of cloud memory where you can have the last 10 billion years of your life in heaven on tap anytime you want, and that for each of the multiple number of trillions of people living in such a hell? I don't think there would be enough storage space in the entire universe for that kind of thing.
Then there would be, WHY? Why would a god set up such a ridiculous system in the first place, where trillions of sycophants lives lives for trillions of years just because this god loves his pets?
12 Jul 16
Originally posted by sonhouseIf you are going to belittle the scripture version of God you should at least have a clue
Living forever is impossible for humans, bible or no bible. Your brain could record MAYBE a thousand years of life but after that you would have to recycle your memory cells and so you would go through the ages with only the last thousand years or so in your memory, say 10,000 years later you are still alive but you can't remember the first 90% of your life ...[text shortened]... trillions of sycophants lives lives for trillions of years just because this god loves his pets?
what it is your talking about. The human body in its current form isn't what goes on from
now into eternity, you have nothing to compare the next life with.
Originally posted by sonhouseNo its not. Under the correct circumstances there is no reason why your cells could not regenerate perpetually. Also its was addressed not to a human, but a cat!
Living forever is impossible for humans, bible or no bible. Your brain could record MAYBE a thousand years of life but after that you would have to recycle your memory cells and so you would go through the ages with only the last thousand years or so in your memory, say 10,000 years later you are still alive but you can't remember the first 90% of your life ...[text shortened]... trillions of sycophants lives lives for trillions of years just because this god loves his pets?
13 Jul 16
Originally posted by KellyJayAnd we have nothing on the "next life" to go on other than your undoubtedly sincere insistence that there is such a thing.
The human body in its current form isn't what goes on from
now into eternity, you have nothing to compare the next life with.
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Originally posted by FMFAnd we have nothing on the "next life" to go on other than your undoubtedly sincere insistence that there is such a thing.
And we have nothing on the "next life" to go on other than your undoubtedly sincere insistence that there is such a thing.
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I don't know about the phrase "next life" but we do have this Person - Jesus. Now Jesus, many of us believe, spoke of resurrection before He died. During this time of preaching and speaking He also raised a few people from the dead.
Then His turn came to die. And in three days He rose from the dead AS He had promised and predicted.
Now you can react however you would like to react. Some of us react with a feeling that Jesus is Someone whose words carry great veracity. It would be one thing if He taught about Him being "the resurrection and the life" and His corpse were paraded around by hostile Jews or hostile Romans.
In that case we might not take the words of Christ so seriously about life over coming death. But since we're persuaded that He demonstrated a death overcoming life He has a kind of approvedness of authenticity that fuels our faith. Idealism or Realism? That's for others to decide.
Is Jesus Christ too wonderful to be true? Or is Jesus Christ too wonderful to NOT be true? That's something you'll have to personally reckon with. I've come to a conclusion.
Jesus Christ is too wonderful to be the product of sinful human imagination. I believe He is the Son of God.
It requires more work to argue that Christ didn't say or do these things recorded in the New Testament.