Why torturing people for eternity is wrong

Originally posted by @kellyjay
What He went through was so that He could become sin for our salvation, what He went through was what it took to save us. If the Son of God had to suffer so that we can saved what do you think is going to happen to those without His grace when they die in their sins, waisting His grace? When He says “Depart from me...”

I don't think Jesus will tell anyone to 'depart from Him'.

I cannot see that as an option. The crucifixion took care of that.

Originally posted by @chaney3
I don't think Jesus will tell anyone to 'depart from Him'.

I cannot see that as an option. The crucifixion took care of that.

Read the Bible, He without a doubt says it! Why would anyone make that up?

Originally posted by @chaney3
I don't think Jesus will tell anyone to 'depart from Him'.

I cannot see that as an option. The crucifixion took care of that.

I guess you believe Jesus lied.

Originally posted by @eladar
I guess you believe Jesus lied.

Jesus also said that God sent Him to save the world, not to condemn it.

So once again, we have contradictions in the Bible.

Choose one. Save? Condemn?

I choose save.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Jesus also said that God sent Him to save the world, not to condemn it.

So once again, we have contradictions in the Bible.

Choose one. Save? Condemn?

I choose save.

I am sure you believe there is a contradiction by forcing your assumptions believing yourself to be God.

As I said before, you find what you are looking for.

Originally posted by @eladar
I am sure you believe there is a contradiction by forcing your assumptions believing yourself to be God.

As I said before, you find what you are looking for.

He's not 'forcing' anything, and he doesn't believe he's God.

What is wrong with you?

Originally posted by @suzianne
He's not 'forcing' anything, and he doesn't believe he's God.

What is wrong with you?

So chimes in the proponent of baby butchering in the name of Christ.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Jesus also said that God sent Him to save the world, not to condemn it.

So once again, we have contradictions in the Bible.

There is no contradiction. The world was already condemned before his arrival. So he didn't come here to condemn the world, that would be redundant.

Originally posted by @divegeester
Yes we all know the scriptures suzianne and that you yourself don’t believe in eternal suffering.

And yet here you are, not agreeing with my thought-through attempt to explain why it’s wrong, but quoting one of the scriptures to support your buddies rather me whom you don’t like.

Nice one...

And you are so full of yourself and your own opinion that you now attempt to "call me out" when I bring up my disagreement with Rajk.

He claims something which is not supported by scripture. Those three he lists are not the only three. Those who worship the beast or his image and those who take the beast's mark are a unique class and so deserve more of God's wrath than the run-of-the-mill unrepentant sinner. I'm merely correcting Rajk's ill-informed opinion.

I said nothing of my belief, as I have talked about it many times. And I am certainly not going to fawn after you, stroking your already overly huge ego, like others. You can assume all you like, lie about me all you like, whine about me all you like, but it doesn't affect me or my belief. You want sycophants? Sorry, but you're just gonna have to look elsewhere.

Just like FMF, you seem to keep forgetting that I'm not here to fight your battles.

Originally posted by @eladar
So chimes in the proponent of baby butchering in the name of Christ.

Give it a rest, Judas.

Originally posted by @chaney3
Jesus also said that God sent Him to save the world, not to condemn it.

So once again, we have contradictions in the Bible.

Choose one. Save? Condemn?

I choose save.

No contradictions you are assuming it is all one or the other. Jesus said only a few are going to the find God’s salvation! Throughout Jesus walk He stress the points on both entering the Kingdom or being cast out! He stressed sharing the danger of being half ready!

Originally posted by @whodey
Suzy................he's all yours baby!

I'll just kindly step aside and enjoy the fireworks and munch on some popcorn.

Thanks in advance.

I've spoken up about his sexism several times, and since he is apparently unrepentant about his sexism, indeed, rather proud of it, it's a waste of my time I could be spending with people who are actually worth it.

Originally posted by @suzianne
Give it a rest, Judas.

Just calling a spade a spade Satan's children like yourself need to be exposed.

Originally posted by @eladar
I am sure you believe there is a contradiction by forcing your assumptions believing yourself to be God.

As I said before, you find what you are looking for.

I saw "Passion of the Christ", and if the 'real thing' was anything like that, then:

Jesus did that for ALL of us, no questions asked, and no 'clauses' for anyone to benefit.

God felt a sacrifice needed to happen, and Jesus did it, with some human hesitation, but He did it.

I think that anything less than ALL are saved does nothing but trivialize 'the deed'.

Originally posted by @eladar
Just calling a spade a spade Satan's children like yourself need to be exposed.

Ones like you, the hypocrites, are so numerous in these latter days, that if I exposed every one of them, that's ALL I'd be doing. And there's so little time that rooting out these, who will all be destroyed anyway, is a tragic waste of time.