Spirituality
24 Aug 23
31 Aug 23
@rajk999 saidThe way was made for all but they only have the right to be as has been pointed out to you repeatedly some will hear, “Depart from me, I never knew you.” Jesus’ words that you appear to ignore.
All people are already justified by Gods grace, through the death of Christ. I quoted the scripture which you ignore conveniently because it contradicts you church doctrine.
However according to Christ that is not something that people need to concern themselves with. If it was then he would have said it.. just like you did.
31 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidYou are a liar. I have not ignored that reference, I dealt with that already. Here it is
The way was made for all but they only have the right to be as has been pointed out to you repeatedly some will hear, “Depart from me, I never knew you.” Jesus’ words that you appear to ignore.
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. Matthew 7:21-23 KJV)
Some people were saying that
- they prophesied
- they cast out devils
- did wonderful works [these are miraculous works]
These appear to be what churches do, and are NOT GOOD WORKS. Jesus does not know these people. Jesus does not know you church people
Good works are
- feeding the hungry
- clothing the naked
- helping the needy
- doing good.
These are what ordinary people can do. These are GOOD WORKS
01 Sep 23
@rajk999 saidYou cannot say everyone is saved if some are not, you talk out two sides of your face.
You are a liar. I have not ignored that reference, I dealt with that already. Here it is
[i]Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name do ...[text shortened]... g the needy
- doing good.
These are what ordinary people can do. These are GOOD WORKS
01 Sep 23
@kellyjay saidWhat I quoted is Paul in Romans 5 that everyone is JUSTIFIED by the death of Christ. This justification which came upon all people is the FREE GIFT of God.
You cannot say everyone is saved if some are not, you talk out two sides of your face.
I never said everyone is saved ... moron.
@rajk999 saidThread 197668
What I quoted is Paul in Romans 5 that everyone is JUSTIFIED by the death of Christ. This justification which came upon all people is the FREE GIFT of God.
I never said everyone is saved ... moron.
01 Sep 23
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@rajk999 saidYour name-calling doesn't add to your point, but it is what you do along with your lies and half-truths. We are saved because God justifies us, those who are not saved are not justified. This is why they die in their sins, had they been justified they would not, you lie and are confused twisting the Word to your destruction. If they had turned to the Lord they would have been justified and saved from the wrath to come, It wasn't because the Lord didn't want them, they didn't want to Lord. As you and others don't want Him either you make one up from your imagination that isn't the one the scriptures speak about, your Christ you made up He isn't found in scripture.
What I quoted is Paul in Romans 5 that everyone is JUSTIFIED by the death of Christ. This justification which came upon all people is the FREE GIFT of God.
I never said everyone is saved ... moron.
01 Sep 23
@rajk999 saidYou quoting scripture means nothing to me as you have repeatedly said you don't hold to scripture and since you demean Paul your quoting him only shows how you cherry-pick what you want, but only when you want it, and when the same verse could show you in error you ignore them, deceiver, hypocrite, liar filled with half-truths if you want the revealed word of God the scriptures to support you, you need to acknowledge them as the revealed word of God and submit to it as you should, deceiver.
What I quoted is Paul in Romans 5 that everyone is JUSTIFIED by the death of Christ. This justification which came upon all people is the FREE GIFT of God.
I never said everyone is saved ... moron.
01 Sep 23
@rajk999 saidDeceiver, just do a word search on 'justified' in whatever Bible you use and you will see that you are not interpreting that correctly, I don't think you will, because as long as you can hide from the truth you can believe your own lies.
What I quoted is Paul in Romans 5 that everyone is JUSTIFIED by the death of Christ. This justification which came upon all people is the FREE GIFT of God.
I never said everyone is saved ... moron.
01 Sep 23
@kellyjay saidThe only thing I dont want is your church doctrine... keep that.
Your name-calling doesn't add to your point, but it is what you do along with your lies and half-truths. We are saved because God justifies us, those who are not saved are not justified. This is why they die in their sins, had they been justified they would not, you lie and are confused twisting the Word to your destruction. If they had turned to the Lord they would have b ...[text shortened]... that isn't the one the scriptures speak about, your Christ you made up He isn't found in scripture.
Im sticking to what Jesus said.
01 Sep 23
@rajk999 saidYou have no idea what my church is let alone its doctrine and you twisting Biblical scripture to make it match your private beliefs and suggesting your private Jesus agrees with you, deceiver.
The only thing I dont want is your church doctrine... keep that.
Im sticking to what Jesus said.
01 Sep 23
@kellyjay saidYour church doctrine is the doctrine you promote here ... for example
You have no idea what my church is let alone its doctrine and you twisting Biblical scripture to make it match your private beliefs and suggesting your private Jesus agrees with you, deceiver.
- The earth was created in 6, consecutive 24 hr periods
- Gentiles will burn in hell for eternity for not professing faith in Jesus
- The Jews who do not accept Jesus will similarly be tormented
- All people prior to Jesus will be tormented for a not accepting Christ.
All baloney.
01 Sep 23
@kellyjay saidEveryone here knows what your “church doctrine” entails Kellyjay; it’s all you talk about.
You have no idea what my church is let alone its doctrine and you twisting Biblical scripture to make it match your private beliefs and suggesting your private Jesus agrees with you, deceiver.
@rajk999 saidWhat church do I go to? You do not know!
Your church doctrine is the doctrine you promote here ... for example
- The earth was created in 6, consecutive 24 hr periods
- Gentiles will burn in hell for eternity for not professing faith in Jesus
- The Jews who do not accept Jesus will similarly be tormented
- All people prior to Jesus will be tormented for a not accepting Christ.
All baloney.
Liar claiming you know what my church doctrine without even knowing the church I belong to. Your half-truths your twisting of scripture, your making claims about things you do not know!
Deceiver, liar do you remember what the Bible says about liars?
Revelation 21:8
But as for the cowardly, the faithless, the detestable, as for murderers, the sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars, their portion will be in the lake that burns with fire and sulfur, which is the second death.”
Another example of those that are not justified and saved.