Spirituality
24 Aug 23
28 Aug 23
@moonbus saidYou think how I view myself is worse than the murders, rapes, stealing, racism, suicides, mutilations, wars, and on and on in others. Because I say we all share the same nature?
The real issue here is not all the hate in the world, but all the self-loathing in you.
I guess you along with others here think you’re above such things. Which typically are those who feel so much better than others so you feel justified in treating others badly.
29 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidYou are a screwed up man KJ.
You think how I view myself is worse than the murders, rapes, stealing, racism, suicides, mutilations, wars, and on and on in others. Because I say we all share the same nature?
I guess you along with others here think you’re above such things. Which typically are those who feel so much better than others so you feel justified in treating others badly.
Church really messed up your head.
Maybe you should take my advice and listen to Christ.
@kellyjay saidYou have explicitly stated that you are equally as "evil" as a rapist. So be it. Well, I'm not. If you believe your nature is that of a rapist, Be that as it may. I do not share that nature.
You think how I view myself is worse than the murders, rapes, stealing, racism, suicides, mutilations, wars, and on and on in others. Because I say we all share the same nature?
@kellyjay saidmoonbus characterizing your stance on your own moral compass as one of self-loathing is not "treating you badly". He's engaging the substance of what you claim to believe about yourself.
guess you along with others here think you’re above such things. Which typically are those who feel so much better than others so you feel justified in treating others badly.
29 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidI say we all share the same nature
You think how I view myself is worse than the murders, rapes, stealing, racism, suicides, mutilations, wars, and on and on in others. Because I say we all share the same nature?
Around 1 percent of the general population meets the clinical criteria for psychopathy. Do you believe that all humans are psychopaths because 1 percent of them are?
29 Aug 23
@rajk999 saidDeceiver, I think you should take your advice but this time listen to the Lord as you read the revealed word of God instead of your imagination that does not line up with scripture only your wicked heart.
You are a screwed up man KJ.
Church really messed up your head.
Maybe you should take my advice and listen to Christ.
@kellyjay saidIs Rajk999's heart "equally as" wicked as yours?
Deceiver, I think you should take your advice but this time listen to the Lord as you read the revealed word of God instead of your imagination that does not line up with scripture only your wicked heart.
Or are you "better" than him?
@kellyjay saidYes, I am above doing murders, rapes, stealing, racism, suicides, mutilations, wars…
You think how I view myself is worse than the murders, rapes, stealing, racism, suicides, mutilations, wars, and on and on in others. Because I say we all share the same nature?
I guess you along with others here think you’re above such things. Which typically are those who feel so much better than others so you feel justified in treating others badly.
If you consider yourself to not be above doing such things, then you really should acknowledge that you are speaking for yourself KellyJay.
29 Aug 23
@philokalia saidThe thing about the evil and hate mankind has in us is that the main point of Jesus Christ is that no matter how bad we have been we can turn towards Him in repentance and receive the forgiveness Christ has won for us to be our redeemer in righteousness.
@KellyJay
We absolutely have to destroy the hate that remaisn in our heart as individuals to be Christians...
It is even the case that hating the devil is a tricky thing and advised agaisnt doing actively, since it is not even hate that easily can be a source of growth.
Perhaps the optimistic way to view this, though, is that if we harbor a sort of h ...[text shortened]... for them. We can realize that there is a circumstance in which we do actually love them.
As man becomes more arrogant puffing himself up thinking he is good enough, or not so bad, he fails to realize how corrupt he is, and his mistreatment of those around is evidence of that. Failing that it is compounded that those who do that also miss how great the salvation offered it, so they despise it, a double failing as Martin Loyd Jones said.
A broken and contrite heart God will not despise, as we acknowledge our guilt it breaks us, and God will redeem us no matter how bad we have been. The proud, the self-righteous will stay in their sins and wallow in it building up their guilt till the day of judgment.
@kellyjay saidIf you are corrupt, KellyJay, just speak for yourself. If you mistreat the people around you in your life, then, likewise, speak for yourself. If you are "wallowing" in your immoral behaviour, just speak for yourself and stop projecting your industrial strength misanthropy onto others.
As man becomes more arrogant puffing himself up thinking he is good enough, or not so bad, he fails to realize how corrupt he is, and his mistreatment of those around is evidence of that.
@KellyJay
Sometimes you sound a bit like a smack addict, strung out, at rock bottom, self-loathing, having stolen money to shoot up, and then when you get the chance to talk about your addiction, all you have to say is, "...isn't everyone addicted to smack and shooting up just like me?" A metaphor, of course. But, good grief, man. So much for the message of Good News you peddle.
29 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidThe particular brand of Christianity which you propagate is utterly depressing. I sometimes feel a little sorry for you, but your pridefulness and reluctance to engage in honest debate quickly negates that sentiment.
The thing about the evil and hate mankind has in us is that the main point of Jesus Christ is that no matter how bad we have been we can turn towards Him in repentance and receive the forgiveness Christ has won for us to be our redeemer in righteousness.
As man becomes more arrogant puffing himself up thinking he is good enough, or not so bad, he fails to realize how corr ...[text shortened]... righteous will stay in their sins and wallow in it building up their guilt till the day of judgment.
You would do well to seek some counsel from your church leaders on how to proselytise effectively because all you are doing in these forums is making a fool of yourself and a mockery of the good news of Jesus Christ.