Spirituality
24 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidOf course. did not Jesus identify these 2 groups in Matt 25?
You again feel that there are two different groups on the planet, one who does evil and bad things and others who do not?
- The ones who do good works Jesus called righteous, and welcomed them into the Kingdom of God.
- The rest of the world who do nothing, Jesus called them evil, and cursed, and sent them into everlasting punishment.
27 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidI see you are back with your baloney church doctrine.
A murderer can be "kind" and "nice" to others, but that does not make them righteous before God, none of the good things that a person can do will remove any of the sins from their lives. If you get pulled over for speeding, you can say you are sorry to the officer, claim you will not do it again, and still have to pay your ticket. One thing you are right about God is no r ...[text shortened]... outh worship and what a liar you are when you put your personal spin over the clear wording of text.
Jesus will judge people, not you.
Try not to elevate yourself to that position.
Jesus laid out the criteria for eternal life.
Jesus laid out the criteria for eternal damnation.
Its simple.
@divegeester saidIndeed... and worse than his hypocrisy is this sentence, clearly from a disturbed man
Are you “in danger of hell fire here KellyJay”?
Man, what a hypocrite.
😂
@kellyjay said : I also acknowledge some people rub me the wrong way and I can find myself thinking of very bad things to say and do to them.
What is interesting he is pretending that it is ok to say that and everyone will let it fly.
@kellyjay saidI accept that we have a common physiology and the capacity to make value judgments; in this sense and to this degree only, we are alike. I do not accept the particular value judgment you have made (that all men are evil by nature); in this sense, we are not alike.
So you accept we all share the same nature?
27 Aug 23
@rajk999 saidI have said I need a Savior, I'm not a perfect person. I unlike you do not twist the words of scripture to suit me, A plain reading of the text is not to be voided because I don't like the ramifications, nor do I reject out of hand the choices God made in who wrote New Testament text as you do. I don't hold people to a different standard than I hold myself when quoting scripture. I have to take into account every book, by every author, and it all must be read in light of the whole.
Indeed... and worse than his hypocrisy is this sentence, clearly from a disturbed man
@kellyjay said : I also acknowledge some people rub me the wrong way and I can find myself thinking of very bad things to say and do to them.
What is interesting he is pretending that it is ok to say that and everyone will let it fly.
All of this is still worthless as far as my righteousness is concerned, it is Jesus Christ alone that justifies not how good I am, nor how many good works I have done. You deceitfully twist scripture telling people good works are what helps you get saved, while at the same time ignoring all scripture that says otherwise including the words of Jesus Christ. This has been shown to you over and over, and you do not repent. If anyone believes the lies you tell and avoids giving their lives to Christ their blood is on your hands.
27 Aug 23
@moonbus saidSo you think some are without guilt whatsoever due to them always making the right judgments, and every time they make a judgment, it is always right, and their justification for their reasoning is always correct?
I accept that we have a common physiology and the capacity to make value judgments; in this sense and to this degree only, we are alike. I do not accept the particular value judgment you have made (that all men are evil by nature); in this sense, we are not alike.
27 Aug 23
@moonbus saidDo you think the KKK value judgments were thought right by the KKK? How about cartels when they are making value judgments on human trafficking, and drug sells, are they also thinking due to the benefit they get out of their judgment calls, they are also correct and doing, "good?" What standard is in play that justifies some and condemns others when we all do what is right in our own eyes? If these are wrong and they think they are right, what makes you think you are different in how you view yourself, you just say so?
I accept that we have a common physiology and the capacity to make value judgments; in this sense and to this degree only, we are alike. I do not accept the particular value judgment you have made (that all men are evil by nature); in this sense, we are not alike.
27 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidNo wonder you are so confused.
I have said I need a Savior, I'm not a perfect person. I unlike you do not twist the words of scripture to suit me, A plain reading of the text is not to be voided because I don't like the ramifications, nor do I reject out of hand the choices God made in who wrote New Testament text as you do. I don't hold people to a different standard than I hold myself when quoting scr ...[text shortened]... one believes the lies you tell and avoids giving their lives to Christ their blood is on your hands.
You need a Saviour, who I presume is Jesus.
But you refuse to listen to Him.
Neither do you listen to Paul.
Paul explained that all people are justified by the death of Christ.
The is the free gift of God to all people.
Jesus Christ is everybodys Saviour.
Nobody needs to read any bible to live according the the commandments of Christ. Some who read the bible do the opposite. You are a good example. You read it, you understand it. Yet you still start a thread about how you ... want to hurt people and do them stuff because of something they said ... You are a sick man.
27 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidWhat an absolute ton of garbage. Do you really think these people, KKK, cartels, human traffickers etc do not know they are doing something wrong?
Do you think the KKK value judgments were thought right by the KKK? How about cartels when they are making value judgments on human trafficking, and drug sells, are they also thinking due to the benefit they get out of their judgment calls, they are also correct and doing, "good?" What standard is in play that justifies some and condemns others when we all do what is right ...[text shortened]... nk they are right, what makes you think you are different in how you view yourself, you just say so?
27 Aug 23
@rajk999 saidYou use scripture, even scripture written by Paul to justify and correct because you know the Christians you are talking to acknowledge it is the revealed written Word of God, and you do not hold it to that same standard. Hypocrite, you have said that the scripture doesn't mean the same thing to you as those you talk to, but you do it, deceitfully. You may believe in 'a' Jesus, but he is one of your own making, not the one in scripture, you are not alone in that here.
No wonder you are so confused.
You need a Saviour, who I presume is Jesus.
But you refuse to listen to Him.
Neither do you listen to Paul.
Paul explained that all people are justified by the death of Christ.
The is the free gift of God to all people.
Jesus Christ is everybodys Saviour.
Nobody needs to read any bible to live according the the commandments of Christ. ...[text shortened]... o hurt people and do them stuff because of something they said [/i]... You are a sick man.
27 Aug 23
@kellyjay saidAren’t you simply another right-wing religious zealot KellyJay?
I have said I need a Savior, I'm not a perfect person. I unlike you do not twist the words of scripture to suit me, A plain reading of the text is not to be voided because I don't like the ramifications, nor do I reject out of hand the choices God made in who wrote New Testament text as you do. I don't hold people to a different standard than I hold myself when quoting scr ...[text shortened]... one believes the lies you tell and avoids giving their lives to Christ their blood is on your hands.