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Originally posted by @fmf
Yeah, so said Jeremiah 2,600 years ago. There has probably never been a better time in history - and in a way that affects more people than ever before - to be alive. You'd be laughed off the stage by walk-the-walk Indonesian Christians at the kind of meeting I mentioned.

You’re not aware of how much evil and suffering there is in the world?

Originally posted by @divegeester
Haven’t some Christians been saying the end of the world is nigh for about 2000 years?




Note; SecondSon will no doubt accuse me of “sucking up to trolls” any moment now, so I’ll brace myself for his onslaught.

The Bible never gave a date for Jesus Christ’s return, just as the Bible never gives a date for the age of the earth.

Originally posted by @romans1009
God exists whether people believe in Him or not. You can’t be sure God does not exist. Therefore you can’t be sure an issue does not exist between you and Him. It’s really quite simple.

If God 'doesn't' in fact exist, then it makes no difference if we believe in him or not.

Can you confirm you understand that?

Originally posted by @fmf
I suggest you write it on a sandwich board and traipse up and down the main street wherever you live.

This is how you debate when you need to unload your anger and frustrations onto total strangers. Why not work on improving your life instead? Treat the disease, not the symptoms.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
If God 'doesn't' in fact exist, then it makes no difference if we believe in him or not.

Can you confirm you understand that?

If you’re posing that statement as a thought experiment, obviously it makes sense. If it’s intended to be anything more than a thought experiment, it’s worthless, imo.

Originally posted by @romans1009
If you’re posing that statement as a thought experiment, obviously it makes sense. If it’s intended to be anything more than a thought experiment, it’s worthless, imo.

I'm simply pointing out that the starting point of your premise 'God exists...' isn't proven.

So the statement 'God exists whether we believe in him or not.' makes no sense. You would need to qualify it with 'To me, as a Christian, God exists whether you believe in him or not.' That would make sense.

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
I'm simply pointing out that the starting point of your premise 'God exists...' isn't proven.

So the statement 'God exists whether we believe in him or not.' makes no sense. You would need to qualify it with 'To me, as a Christian, God exists whether you believe in him or not.' That would make sense.

Your premise ignores all the evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ and existence of God. That’s why it’s a thought experiment.

Originally posted by @romans1009
Your premise ignores all the evidence for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ and existence of God. That’s why it’s a thought experiment.

All religions believe they have such evidence. Why is yours correct?

Originally posted by @ghost-of-a-duke
All religions believe they have such evidence. Why is yours correct?

What’s the evidence that God spoke to Muhammad? What’s the evidence that the Hindu gods exist? You must know if you have a theology degree. Why not share that information with the forum? I think it’d be very interesting.

Originally posted by @romans1009
I’m not suggesting a relationship exists and never have because I think that takes mutual interest or at least mutual recognition of each other’s existence.

I’m saying an issue exists between you and God. That’s all I’ve ever said or meant.

There is no issue "between" me and anybody's god figure.

Originally posted by @romans1009
You’re not aware of how much evil and suffering there is in the world?

There are still many problems, a lot of suffering, and people continue to do terrible things to one another.

Originally posted by @fmf
There is no issue "between" me and anybody's god figure.

As I’ve repeatedly said, you don’t know for certain God doesn’t exist. And, if God does exist, He has a say in whether an issue exists between you and Him.

You obviously can’t refute that point and continuing to repeat the same thing over and over is basically an admission of that.

Originally posted by @fmf
There are still many problems, a lot of suffering, and people continue to do terrible things to one another.

Not what I asked. Are you aware of *how much* evil and suffering exists in the world?

Originally posted by @romans1009
What’s the evidence that God spoke to Muhammad? What’s the evidence that the Hindu gods exist? You must know if you have a theology degree. Why not share that information with the forum? I think it’d be very interesting.

Bump for Ghost.

Originally posted by @romans1009
What’s the evidence that God spoke to Muhammad? What’s the evidence that the Hindu gods exist? You must know if you have a theology degree. Why not share that information with the forum? I think it’d be very interesting.

God = Bible.
Allah = Koran.
Brahma = Vedas.

Again, what makes your particular evidence credible or more compelling? (Naturally, I dismiss all of it as 'evidence' of the divine).