I don't think Alabama's offensive line problems had anything to do with the numbers Utah's offensive put up on Alabama. But hey, according to what I've read, after the game Saban said Utah's quarterback is the best quarterback his team played against this year. I guess that means Utah's QB is better than Tebow.
As for the high ranked teams that Texas has played, I think you should only count the team's ranking at the end of the season. Otherwise, OU will have played the same teams (OSU and Mizzou) but be credited with playing lower rated teams. That just isn't the correct thing to do.
Originally posted by EladarYes, when I said "top Big 12 teams can't play D" that clearly means I was talking about individual teams. 🙄
Read the quote again if you think the statement was about generic Big XII defenses.
[b]The OU-Texas Tech game showed that the top Big 12 teams can't play D.
Oh, and you might want to check Alabama's defensive stats against Utah while you are at it. Perhaps this is an omen about tough SEC defenses.[/b]
Utah got 349 total yards. According to you, when a SEC team gives up that number it shows that SEC teams' defenses aren't very good, but when your favorite team gives up 57 more that's proof they have a "good" defense! Again🙄
Originally posted by EladarNo sir. Texas also has OU and Kansas. When Texas played every one of them, they were in the top 10 in the rankings, except for Kansas which I believe was #11 at the time. Their loss to Tech was on the last play of the game as well.
I don't think Alabama's offensive line problems had anything to do with the numbers Utah's offensive put up on Alabama. But hey, according to what I've read, after the game Saban said Utah's quarterback is the best quarterback his team played against this year. I guess that means Utah's QB is better than Tebow.
As for the high ranked teams that Texas h ut be credited with playing lower rated teams. That just isn't the correct thing to do.
Oh, and Jevon Snead left UT because he couldn't beat out Colt McCoy. Guess Colt has to be better than him then.
Too bad for you that the "when Texas played them" isn't taken into consideration when they determine SoS.
Utah got 349 total yards. According to you, when a SEC team gives up that number it shows that SEC teams' defenses aren't very good
My point was that perhaps the SEC offenses in general aren't very good. When they have to play teams with good offenses, their numbers look more like Big XII defensive numbers.
Originally posted by shortcircuitI knew it, there is one in every crowd. :'(
Well, I can because you haven't yet seen the BCS title game. Granted, Utah played well against Alabama (although Alabama played without the best Offensive lineman in the country which forced 4 players to play out of position for the game. This is not to make excuses, but you cannot ignore the fact that Utah may not have had as effective a rush if Alabam ...[text shortened]... would like to see the other two bowl games before I annoint a lesser team as National Champion.
All I can say is, most of the people I converse with all agree that Utah should at least have a piece of the title. Of course, those who live in Florida or around Oklahoma would naturally not agree, but I get the sense that most everyone else agrees.
If the BCS does not reform itself simply on the basis of greed, then perhaps the fans should begin their own ranking system and crowning of a National Champion? Perhaps it could be done with mere votes?
Wouldn't this have been nice?
Dec 24:
Home vs Visit
OU vs Boise State
Alabama vs USC
Texas vs Penn State
Florida vs Utah
(Tech gets the boot because no conference can send more than 2 teams to the Championship Series)
New Years Day
Winners of the first two games meet in the Fiesta Bowl
Winners of the second two games meet in the Rose Bowl
Loser in first two play in the Orange
Losers in the second play in the Sugar
Winners of the Fiesta and Rose meet in the National Championship game Jan 8.
Those teams who do not make the cut play in other bowls.
Originally posted by EladarNot a bad idea, but in order to pull it off, you would need to eliminate conference championship games in all conferences to even out the number of games for all teams.
Wouldn't this have been nice?
Dec 24:
Home vs Visit
OU vs Boise State
Alabama vs USC
Texas vs Penn State
Florida vs Utah
(Tech gets the boot because no conference can send more than 2 teams to the Championship Series)
New Years Day
Winners of the first two games meet in the Fiesta Bowl
Winners of the second two games meet in th ...[text shortened]... e National Championship game Jan 8.
Those teams who do not make the cut play in other bowls.
Horns beat the Buckeyes. Boring first half and a wild second half. Overall, one of the better bowl games that were played. The crappy Big 12 defense held OSU to one touchdown, two 50+ yard field goals and one chip shot field goal. Not too shabby.
BTW, Colt McCoy threw for over 400 yards and two TD and ran for another TD. Not too shabby either.
I have to say that the Texas win over my Buckeyes was not all that impressive. In fact, they won by the skin of their teeth to say the least. If you ask me, the second best in the Big Ten matched up pretty well with the second best in the Big 12.
God help Oklahoma!!
Originally posted by shortcircuitThe crappy Texas defense? You forgot to mention the crappy OSU offense. In fact, they could not even score a touch down against USC or Penn State. Prior is a rookie QB who can't throw as of yet and Wells has been hurt all season as evident by him sitting out the majority of the last half. In addition, their offensive line has had issues since I can remember.
Horns beat the Buckeyes. Boring first half and a wild second half. Overall, one of the better bowl games that were played. The crappy Big 12 defense held OSU to one touchdown, two 50+ yard field goals and one chip shot field goal. Not too shabby.
Originally posted by whodeyWhich side gets the W and which gets the L? The better team won, regardless of the score. And to think, the way Texas won this game was precisely the way they received their only loss of the season.
I have to say that the Texas win over my Buckeyes was not all that impressive. In fact, they won by the skin of their teeth to say the least. If you ask me, the second best in the Big Ten matched up pretty well with the second best in the Big 12.
God help Oklahoma!!
Texas certainly didn't appear to be all that dominant.
But then again, there are those who said that Alabama should have defeated Florida. That game wasn't exactly a blow out. Utah handled Alabama better than Florida did. OU handled Tech better than Ole Miss did, so when it comes to making comparisons, it seems to me that we'll just have to see.
I'm not very impressed with the Wells kid's durability. He doesn't play at the beginning of the season because of injury and then he gets knocked out of the game by Texas.
Originally posted by whodeyBULL!! Wells got his bell rung in the 3rd quarter. He was running at full speed in the first half and kept OSU in the game by himself. OSU gets their only TD on a razzle dazzle with a push off by Prior that wasn't called. Face it, Texas nutted up and did what it took to win and OSU pulled another disappearing act in the Bowls.
The crappy Texas defense? You forgot to mention the crappy OSU offense. In fact, they could not even score a touch down against USC or Penn State. Prior is a rookie QB who can't throw as of yet and Wells has been hurt all season as evident by him sitting out the majority of the last half. In addition, their offensive line has had issues since I can remember.
Originally posted by EladarThe QB did break off a couple of nice runs in the first half to be sure. Wells had 60+ rushing yards and 20+ receiving yards in the first half. That far outdistances Prior's efforts. The pick at the end of the first half kept the game close. The 3rd quarter was no contest. NOt really sure why Texas didn't run the hurry up the entire second half. It was obvious OSU was lost trying to stop it. When they had time to set their defense, they were very tough. It is no scret that Texas has no running game, so OSU was pinning their ears back and coming after the QB all night, yet they didn't get it done. Quan Cosby played a helluva a game as well. McCoy also completed passes to 7 or 8 different receivers as well.
[b]He was running at full speed in the first half and kept OSU in the game by himself.
No, I'd say that Freshman quarterback's legs also kept OSU in the game, as well as the pick thrown at the end of the half.[/b]